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At Trump has several new judges on the 9th, so just Maybe it goes good
Hard to say. More often, political appointees do things that are surprisingly counter-intuitive. The track record for judge appts is not good.
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At Trump has several new judges on the 9th, so just Maybe it goes good
Yes, you are right. It is a dangerous precedent if allowed to stand. And it is likely headed to the 9th Circus, where nothing is certain. But I can't imagine even they would be that duplicitous....
I wouldn't put anything past the 9th Circus, as it wouldn't surprise me it they added even more ridiculous reasons why the 2A doesn't protect semi-autos..........
Ray
we are fighting a loosing battle.
Staton called the rifles "incredibly effective killing machines" that are not needed for self-defense
Because only firearms that are non-lethal should be used for self-defense?
That would suck.... rubber bullets, squirt pistols, and harsh language!
I think this is a good ruling ... because it's certain to make it to the Supreme Court, presuming the 9th rules liberally in favor of upholding it, as they most always do - and we'll have the right case to go before the SCOTUS regarding banning commonly owned semi-auto weapons (handguns AND rifles).
And we'll win there.
You go to court, you never know what will happen. I wish it wasn't necessary...
Second Amendment was always about the people being a militia, or forming a militia, as such the citizen is to be armed. Ignorance is a convenience for her I guess.She decided that semi-automatic rifles should be deemed "dangerous and unusual weapons" that are used in military service, not civilian homes, and therefore not protected by the Second Amendment.
Except "machine guns" have a higher rate of fire and can be distinguished easily, the weapons of choice for gang activity would be a handgun as its easier to conceal, hate groups use anything (and also a pretty loose term, any group they disagree with could be a hate group), mass murderers will use whatever they can get. She's as stupid as stupid gets.In her ruling, Staton "cited congressional findings that semi-automatic rifles have a rate of fire, 300 to 500 rounds per minute, that makes them 'virtually undistinguishable' from machine guns, and that they are the 'weapons of choice' for gangs, hate groups, and 'mentally deranged persons bent on mass murder,'" the San Francisco Chronicle described.
Except physics don't work that way. She needs to get a decent understanding of physics before making outlandish claims such as that.She added that there is clear evidence that the bullets fired by semi-automatic rifles "can pass through both humans and buildings and therefore pose a greater risk of striking innocent bystanders."
Considering the current and expanding bans and/or limits on semi-auto firearms, it's inevitable this will go to the supreme court.
Better to have an outrageous, egregious and over-the-top ruling like this one to argue in court.
Better still if Ginsburg at 85 in declining health, should need to retire.
the weapons of choice for gang activity would be a handgun
Easy to conceal. No gang member is gonna waltz around with an AK, copper dun shot him if he do.My understanding is that the most common banger gun is a .380... example: Lorcin... they are cheap and easy to conceal. 2nd most common is a 9 if I remember correctly.