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Ask the Iraqis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_killings_in_IraqWhere does an emo fit in?
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Ask the Iraqis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_killings_in_IraqWhere does an emo fit in?
The only time I pay any attention to group size is when I'm working out a load.
Have you ever reproduced those results? That picture has to be 5 years old by now.If I can still consistently hit you in the eye after a full day of shooting a "few" rounds all day……. you won't know if my rifle is >MOA.
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It was a hole punchHave you ever reproduced those results? That picture has to be 5 years old by now.
No one with much experience in the field and on the range would hunt with a clean bore (although some blackpowder rifles may prefer that condition for accuracy).The other thing is 99.9% of hunting shots are done with a cold, clean bore so any data gathered after that is moot.
I don't measure hunting rifle groups. I don't hunt off a bench at a known distance. I can tell it's a good load by looking at the holes in the paper but beyond that I want the group to cluster right around the cross hairs at whatever range I shoot at. Zeroing is much more valuble to me at the range than gantz-azz groups.
Not always a rigged game. Had a real POS. Fliers all over the friggin place. I won't name the brand, but going into it I was relying on brand's good name and in fact bought one of their higher end rifles specifically for long-range hunting. Fed up, I called and complained, so they asked me to UPS it to their testing site. They pretty obviously planned to prove me wrong. Long story short, they sent back a completely new rifle and admitted the one I had could not be fixed. Good for that brand, but on the other hand it appears their quality control has totally tanked in the modern era. And no, it was not a Remington.I have a Rem 700 that I spent too much money upgrading and that will do holes touching at 200 yards. However, not the entire group, and not "all day".
Always tricky to assess accuracy because of wind, ammo quality, and the human element. I sure would never send a bbl (or complete firearm) back under a sub-MOA "warranty". The mfg. is going to win that argument every time. That is a rigged game IMO.
Sound of the splash, dontcha know.
^^^This is interesting.Not always a rigged game. Had a real POS. Fliers all over the friggin place. I won't name the brand, but going into it I was relying on brand's good name and in fact bought one of their higher end rifles specifically for long-range hunting. Fed up, I called and complained, so they asked me to UPS it to their testing site. They pretty obviously planned to prove me wrong. Long story short, they sent back a completely new rifle and admitted the one I had could not be fixed. Good for that brand, but on the other hand it appears their quality control has totally tanked in the modern era. And no, it was not a Remington.
I saw @No_Regerts shoot a sub-1 inch group at 300 yards with a cheap Walmart Weatherby vanguard special and Core-Lokt ammo. We both had a good laugh about it knowing full well it was a one-off.It was a hole punch
LOL…. I knew that'd trigger you! Actually, I haven't shot it for a couple years now….Have you ever reproduced those results? That picture has to be 5 years old by now.
LOL! It really did! Please please please stop posting the same old pictures. Go shooting and take some new ones!LOL…. I knew that'd trigger you! Actually, I haven't shot it for a couple years now….
BUT THATS NOT THE POINT!!
LOL! It really did! Please please please stop posting the same old pictures. Go shooting and take some new ones!
LOL! It really did! Please please please stop posting the same old pictures. Go shooting and take some new ones!
I haven't seen either of your ugly mugs in several years. Come to think of it, I haven't seen ANYONE from that group in at least 3 years.Uuuggghh….. between the career, grandkids, being born, more adult, children of mine getting married, enduro riding, 4-wheeling, and getting the finish-carpentry completed on my house… I haven't done that, or even ridden my Harley in a couple of years!
I did go to a 22LR wood shoot using my G44 at Clark Rifles a month or two ago with @Joe13!
I always try to make my next shot better than my last shot...that is good enough for me.
True...especially on our club's trail walk.
20 or so steel gongs of various sizes and various distances...25 -100 yards.
Any hit will do...
However...also on the same trail walk is a paper target that will get scored by points...so a tight group is nice.
Not to forget to mention the splitting the playing card edgewise shot...or tie breaker shot of hitting , or coming closest to the bull , which is the size of a nickle.
Any of the above shows accuracy...some of the shots however require a different kind of accuracy.
All shooting on this trail walk is off hand as well.
Andy