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Frankly, if you don't have your own gun and the training to use it then you won't be using my gun...until it leaves my cold dead fingers.
No really, it's about trust, always.
No really, it's about trust, always.
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I would take that with a grain of salt. When talking about SHTF days, IMHO, true trust is earned and tempered through hardship... not during the "fair weather days" when it's easy to be trustworthy. It's human nature to feel almost an overwhelming tie and sense of responsibility toward our "own". It would be naive to think any other person wouldn't feel the same for "theirs". When those two interests seem to fall in conflict with each other is when you see the true nature of a person and a betrayal of what you might "like" to believe about another isn't exactly a rarity.I know my neighbors well enough to know who I might be able to count on.
Excellent point! Note the operative word "might" in the portion you quoted. It is imperative that you at least get to know your neighbors, but how many of us try to act normally like our neighbors don't exist?I would take that with a grain of salt. When talking about SHTF days, IMHO, true trust is earned and tempered through hardship... not during the "fair weather days" when it's easy to be trustworthy. It's human nature to feel almost an overwhelming tie and sense of responsibility toward our "own". It would be naive to think any other person wouldn't feel the same for "theirs". When those two interests seem to fall in conflict with each other is when you see the true nature of a person and a betrayal of what you might "like" to believe about another isn't exactly a rarity.
Work as a community, but keep your circle of trust where it belongs. Being ever vigilant for those that may feel they have no choice but to betray your trust for the greater good of their own. You can't exactly fault a person in a case like that. People of, ultimately, weak nature are commonplace, but that doesn't mean you have to get caught with your pants down, either.
You must have lived through the dot.com bubble to have seen all that hardship.IMHO, true trust is earned and tempered through hardship.
I've heard interesting stories about how prisoner camps would quickly identify "leaders" among the POWs and separate them from the weaker "followers", then try to use the weak followers to control/manipulate the rest. The camps recognized that the leaders had strength of character brought about by faith in a higher power and authority above their captors, making true leaders a threat and influence that was difficult to break. They also recognized that this leadership character was not based on rank or status, contrary to what many would assume.I would take that with a grain of salt. When talking about SHTF days, IMHO, true trust is earned and tempered through hardship... not during the "fair weather days" when it's easy to be trustworthy. It's human nature to feel almost an overwhelming tie and sense of responsibility toward our "own". It would be naive to think any other person wouldn't feel the same for "theirs". When those two interests seem to fall in conflict with each other is when you see the true nature of a person and a betrayal of what you might "like" to believe about another isn't exactly a rarity.
Work as a community, but keep your circle of trust where it belongs. Being ever vigilant for those that may feel they have no choice but to betray your trust for the greater good of their own. You can't exactly fault a person in a case like that. People of, ultimately, weak nature are commonplace, but that doesn't mean you have to get caught with your pants down, either.
You'll have to explain that one. I'm completely lost to any relevance to the topic or what point you're trying to make.You must have lived through the dot.com bubble to have seen all that hardship.
That pretty well sums it up for me also....I do NOT trust the RADICAL LEFT people in society.
I do NOT trust the RADICAL RIGHT people in society.
I do.This question seems to be up for much debate on the internet, and I'm sure it's not the first time this has been asked here:
Do you all stock numerous or extra firearms for people around you? No need for numbers or pictures, but I can't help but wonder who keeps backup weapons for their primaries.
I have my couple of main defensive rifles and like to keep some "beater" ones around to use for parts or to hand out in an emergency if need be. More is less, or so they say.
Thoughts on how many is too much? This is without regard for other important preps like food, water, metals, ammo, etc.
Multiple.Any firearm considered a primary should have a backup sibling. Just saying.
Not everyone sees the need, but some would wake up very quickly. Most of my neighbors have at least one firearm, others have expressed an interest. I would trust most of them before I would trust certain family members.I don't believe it's in my best interests to arm those not already owning firearms.
Yes and no.In a SHTF there are a multitude of things they can do without being front line solders.
Some I trust - a son of a nephew, he served in the Army and has proven to be reliable and helpful, unlike his uncle who, while having served in the Army, is not reliable or helpful.If I have to arm them, then they probably have zero training and are a liability. Those family members that say, "I know where I'm coming for the apocalypse ", are welcome. Their contribution will be weeding the garden and feeding livestock.
Not specifically, but the wife has done training at FAS, owns her own pistols and AR, both kids and sons in law have received training, both formal classes and with me. With multiple rifles all in the same caliber, plenty o' mags and quite a few pistols (same platform) that take common mags and ammo, IF it ever came down to it, I'd feel comfortable arming the entire family. About the only scenario (realistically) that I can envision is when the big Cascadia 10.0 quake hits, we on the peninsula are totally cut off with power for weeks and the inevitable roving bands of predators start raiding... We'll all hunker down and be prepared to defend the family compound...Do you all stock numerous or extra firearms for people around you?
Sorry, just kind of making fun of the idea that US citizens born in the second half of 20th century have faced what would historically be called hardship - especially in a thread where everyone has so much disposable income to have multiple copies of high end firearms and ammo.You'll have to explain that one. I'm completely lost to any relevance to the topic or what point you're trying to make.
Or... we're just doing that thing where we spit out random unrelated statements for ghits and shiggles(?)