Yeah I'm on the hunt for a good used one.Just looked those up. Spendy!
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Yeah I'm on the hunt for a good used one.Just looked those up. Spendy!
Been working on this myself. Storage, security and access became the more immediate issue.
Don't believe it's possible for an individual to provide absolute security for ammo, weapons or household valuables in a residential location. The best we can do is complicate the thiefs problem and limits losses. Long story short I spread the ammo out to various locations (on and off site) and storage methods. On site storage is limited to my average 2-4 week usage. The rest is off site in a couple of secure locations. Fact is if/when the SHTF where am I going to go with 500/600 pounds of ammo and what are the chances of me successfully defending it?
Have been trying to put together components and equipment to reload. In these times of shortage it's coming together slowly...that presents a different problem.....that can't move anywhere.
I understand what you're saying. Don't disagree. You have to judge what is best for your situation.
For myself it became apparent there was no way to provide effective protection here.
I could lose too much in a single break in. So I spread it out.
so you don't think the WOLF ammo on top is a tell for some thief that reads?A standard HON lockable 4-drawer file cabinet that I got free as Hanford surplus works pretty well for me.
For a capacity comparison, each drawer easily holds 4,500 rds of 5.56 x 45 (9 boxes x 500 rds/box).
I could stuff a few hundred more rounds in there, but that would require more Jenga skilz than I want to mess with.
I imagine you could put a dolly under it if you really wanted mobility.
I have since relocated the 5,000 rds in the boxes on top and the 1,700-odd rounds in the ammo cans to another file cabinet in another closet.
The cabinets remain locked and they live behind closed closet doors in my office/study and den. They just look like ordinary file cabinets now.
Very unassuming...
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I use one like this but I added 1/2" plywood as the weight of some of the ammo cans can make the shelves sag a bit, plus they slide more easily on the plywood.I got several of those heavy duty shelves from Costco:
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The non-sale price is about $160, sale price is about $130. They go on sale about once a quarter?
Very heavy duty. I would not put a lot of ammo on anything lighter weight. I have about 75K rounds of ammo. Costco also sells their "pallet" shelves which are heavier duty yet - but they are expensive - about $430? The shelving above is adequate for ammo IMO/IME, but if you are truly loading pallets onto shelves then get the pallet shelving.
I am transferring ammo from plastic ammo cans to metal. I found the Plano "cans" to be too lightweight for ammo. MTM are much better, and the USGI surplus cans to be the best. Occasionally Costco has two cans - .50 & .30 size - together for $20. These are black instead of green, but are good quality IMO.
IMO the metal cans are the most protective/durable. I've had experience with them being damaged and they hold up better than the plastic ones. Given the current market value, and the value in a SHTF scenario, I strongly prefer the metal cans.
I would not get cans larger than "fat .50" for hand carried ammo - anything larger is going to be difficult/awkward to move due to size/weight if you have to move it quickly. I do have much larger cans, but they are not for ammo or items of that mass density.
I had to evacuate last year (wildfire) and could not take my ammo as I only had 5 minutes notice. That made me think again about how to store my ammo and making it easier to bug out with the ammo.
Also, I am now thinking of building some fire resistant drywall (Type X/C drywall - https://www.perfection-drywall-painting.com/the-difference-between-type-x-and-c-drywall/ ) around the the outside and top of the shelving I have for ammo, and putting a waterproof layer on the top shelf - making it into a cabinet.
Exactly what I plan on doing. I got one of these back after the folks passed away (I'd given it to Dad when I bought a safe). Might even have a little room for a long gun or two left over. Not safe strong, but good quality tool box strong. Wouldn't be hard to add casters first.converted an old cheap Stack On gun cabinet to an ammo locker with simple DIY wood scrap shelf. Lock keeps the kids out and bolted to a wall stud in an obvious place in the garage wastes 10 precious minutes a home thieves time.
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Nobody is concerned about fires?
Now, about storing 55 gallons of gasoline inside of a building....brrrrrrr............
In an outbuilding.where would you have me store it?
In an outbuilding.
It is in an outbuilding - my metal skin shop, 75 yards away from my house.
Ahh, dohhh! That's perfect!!
I'ma gonna score you 0 points for readin' comprehension, there, 41.so you don't think the WOLF ammo on top is a tell for some thief that reads?
Assumes that you have an opener.
But yes, with or without opener, a lot of rollup doors are vulnerable. But then so are houses - most have glass windows that can be armored (film) but are not.
Then there is the full on 'Legacy' option. In other words your kids or gkids will be using your property forever.Assumes that you have an opener.
But yes, with or without opener, a lot of rollup doors are vulnerable. But then so are houses - most have glass windows that can be armored (film) but are not.