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Well I am a bit embarrassed to say that I received a Deny on my latest "attempted" firearms purchase. Yep, sure enough. My last two transactions prior to this where delayed and those where the first transactions I have had in a number of years. The first one I got a proceed later that same day (about 10 hours later, but still the same day) The delay deal is a drag but it is what it is.
So in January I applied for my CPL, I got it in the mail on Monday March 2nd. Its issue date is actually listed on there as the 2nd, which I find a little odd since its the day it actually showed up. I was pretty excited that I finally got it and thought "you know what? I am going to go buy me a new handgun!" I mean what better excuse than I "need" something that is appropriate for carry (I have a number of handguns but nothing that would be practical for me to pack around if the need arouse) Ok that's not actually what I thought, It was more "I'll just go look, see what they have, I wont actually buy one, BUT I know exactly what I want, a scandium J frame .357" The last time I had a concealed carry card when I did carry much of the time I packed a 640. I know, Not ideal for you die hard every day guys but I honestly dont have any intention of carrying every day and I just want one because I regret no longer having the 640.
So I stop in Sportsman's Warehouse, They have a scandium M&P 340 .357...... I say F'it, I'll take it. $721+tax. I tell the guy I will be delayed (the last few where, no reason to expect anything different) Hand over my drivers license and my freshly printed and laminated CPL which I have had in my possession for less than 36 hours. Sure enough, delay.
So three days go by, I get the call, "Sorry man, you where denied" Whaaaat? I have bought a rifle in the last 60 days and within the last 30 issued a CPL, However apparently I cannot pass a background check.
So anyway after getting the deny I started doing some research and found this
http://www.justice.gov/oig/reports/ATF/e0406/exec.htm
"We found that 69 (35 percent) of the 197 delayed denials and 16 (8 percent) of the 200 standard denials that we sampled were applicants who subsequently were found not to be prohibited from possessing a firearm. This situation occurred for several reasons: (1) the subject's firearm rights had been restored under state law, (2) the subject's prohibition for a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence did not meet the federal criteria, or (3) a protective order had expired or was about to expire."
So in this department of Justice report it says that 43% of the sampled applicants denied where subsequently found not to be prohibited from possessing a firearm.
Yes its a small sample size, but 43% seems to be a pretty significant number. Funny how in all the pro background check stuff they never tell you that close to half of all the people "stopped" actually turn out not prohibited from having a firearm.
Anyway...
I am now officially one of the "BAD GUY" background check success stories that will be added to the statistics showing how background checks keep guns out of criminals hands.
See all you guys who wanted a CPL for a private sales before I594, It meant nothing! I have one and cant pass a background check!
So in January I applied for my CPL, I got it in the mail on Monday March 2nd. Its issue date is actually listed on there as the 2nd, which I find a little odd since its the day it actually showed up. I was pretty excited that I finally got it and thought "you know what? I am going to go buy me a new handgun!" I mean what better excuse than I "need" something that is appropriate for carry (I have a number of handguns but nothing that would be practical for me to pack around if the need arouse) Ok that's not actually what I thought, It was more "I'll just go look, see what they have, I wont actually buy one, BUT I know exactly what I want, a scandium J frame .357" The last time I had a concealed carry card when I did carry much of the time I packed a 640. I know, Not ideal for you die hard every day guys but I honestly dont have any intention of carrying every day and I just want one because I regret no longer having the 640.
So I stop in Sportsman's Warehouse, They have a scandium M&P 340 .357...... I say F'it, I'll take it. $721+tax. I tell the guy I will be delayed (the last few where, no reason to expect anything different) Hand over my drivers license and my freshly printed and laminated CPL which I have had in my possession for less than 36 hours. Sure enough, delay.
So three days go by, I get the call, "Sorry man, you where denied" Whaaaat? I have bought a rifle in the last 60 days and within the last 30 issued a CPL, However apparently I cannot pass a background check.
So anyway after getting the deny I started doing some research and found this
http://www.justice.gov/oig/reports/ATF/e0406/exec.htm
"We found that 69 (35 percent) of the 197 delayed denials and 16 (8 percent) of the 200 standard denials that we sampled were applicants who subsequently were found not to be prohibited from possessing a firearm. This situation occurred for several reasons: (1) the subject's firearm rights had been restored under state law, (2) the subject's prohibition for a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence did not meet the federal criteria, or (3) a protective order had expired or was about to expire."
So in this department of Justice report it says that 43% of the sampled applicants denied where subsequently found not to be prohibited from possessing a firearm.
Yes its a small sample size, but 43% seems to be a pretty significant number. Funny how in all the pro background check stuff they never tell you that close to half of all the people "stopped" actually turn out not prohibited from having a firearm.
Anyway...
I am now officially one of the "BAD GUY" background check success stories that will be added to the statistics showing how background checks keep guns out of criminals hands.
See all you guys who wanted a CPL for a private sales before I594, It meant nothing! I have one and cant pass a background check!
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