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ww2 japanese rifle

Discussion in 'Rifle Classifieds' started by REASONXXX, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. REASONXXX

    REASONXXX eastside Member

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    I got this rifle in a trade thinking i could do some smithing on it,but found it a lil more than i can handle.

    its pretty nice and i saw ones on gunbroker going for upwards of $700 ,im not expecting to get this just letting ya know what it could be worth.

    so offer up any trades and cash prices. Id like a nice rifle or starter type weapon for my sons to learn on but will entertain all offers.

    pm me for pics.

    im told i need a price..umm how about...$250 OBO
     
  2. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    If you are selling this rifle it requires a price.
     
  3. ob1

    ob1 49th parallel Well-Known Member

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    does it have the Imperial crest intact on it? It would look like a flower (Chrysanthemum)
    It would be stamped on the receiver, probably on top.
     
  4. REASONXXX

    REASONXXX eastside Member

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    yes,but it was ground off so i read it was one that was surrendered. only partial ground off you can still see it.
     
  5. warnerwh

    warnerwh Portland, OR Member

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    These guns can vary in price significantly. Do you have the bayonet? Does the number on the bolt match the serial number? Has the stock been messed with at all? Does it have the cleaning rod? Are the wings on the rear site?
     
  6. tionico

    tionico Thurston County Well-Known Member

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    Bore---- is it the early 6.5mm, or the later 7.7? Short barrel carbine, or long standard? Safety or none (on the back of the bolt)
     
  7. REASONXXX

    REASONXXX eastside Member

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    the stock was cut to be sporty i guess, the numbers do match. no cleaning rod.yes wings.
     
  8. REASONXXX

    REASONXXX eastside Member

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    no safety (wich im assuming is only peice besides firing pin is missing). not sure of bore, and long standard
     
  9. REASONXXX

    REASONXXX eastside Member

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    ok posted some pics
     
  10. tionico

    tionico Thurston County Well-Known Member

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    It is definitely an Arisaka, and looking at the pics, it appears to be the later (post 1938) T-96, which was 7.7mm bore (the earlier T-38 is in 6.5mm, and produced up to about 1938, was found to be rather inadequate against the Chinese during their attempts to overtake that nation.). The thin length of the large round bit at the back of the bolt, and the straight cut of the wood on the right side and below the breech, together with the large screw-type fastener through the stock below and just ahead of the breech, all point in that direction. BUT--- I may well be wrong, as I've only seen a few of these positively identified, and those guys had them made in several factories and in several variants.

    Regarding the safety, this was a much later add-on which didn't work well, the soldiers didn't like it and rarely used it (it had a habit of failing to come off, thus rendering the weapon unusable). So, if it HAD one it would have to be a very late version, which is not a good one, as they were cranking them out so fact quality really suffered.

    Did I understand correctly that the firing pin is missing? If so, this is basically a wall decoration, and I've seen nice, clean, working condition weapons with the Mum intact, and in otherwise original condition, for only about $350. The modified stock further lowers the value, as it is not even "correct" as a wall decoration.....

    I'd suggest taking a full set of photos, showing the modded stock, what's left of the Mum, and other general details, a full description (firing pin business clearly stated, if it is an issue, that sort of thing) and throwing it on Gunbroker and see what happens. Maybe someone needs a good barrel, trigger guard, the sight (most are nowhere in sight....)... OR, head on up to the Puyallup WAC gunshow next weekend (23rd or so) and find the chap who specialises in these things... he's likely got a good bolt, or a firing pin, he will supply... then at least you'll have a working rifle. I've heard the early versions of these (1938 to about 1943) were decent quality, that 7.7 Jap round had decent ballistics. Not a 6.5 Swede Mauser, but hey, for a fraction of the money it WILL poke holes in something.....
     
  11. REASONXXX

    REASONXXX eastside Member

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    wow! thanks for all the info, ill definatly do that! man you sure know alot about weapons fella! lol but still if anyone offers up or can use the parts ****,im all for helping out.
     
  12. tionico

    tionico Thurston County Well-Known Member

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    you sure know alot about weapons fella! lol but still if anyone offers up or can use the parts ****,im all for helping out.


    well, it happens you have one of the two or three types of old military rifles I've learned some about.... and quite by accident. You see, I was recently given one myself, posted some "HELP!!!!" threads here, and a few folks pointed me to some resources that really helped. Mine is the earlier T-38, 6.5 mm. Much rarer, and mine is complete EXCEPT some bright soul clicked the button and dropped the floorplate, together with follower and spring, out of the magazine bay.... and never picked it up. So its gone. And no, yours from the T-96 won't fit. That's why I was asking some pointed questions, to see whether it moghtn't be a T-38. If so, I'd have been all over it!!

    If you want, I can get you some contact info for that chap who usually is at the WAC shows.... he's got a ton of those Arisakas, all models. He claims to have the bits gone wanting from mine.... I got his phone number and could PM that to you. He'll likely have a bolt or a firing pin for yours. He's rather proud of his stuff, but hey, who else has any? Glad some of this info helps. Hope you can turn this old bird to some good use one way or another.
     
  13. REASONXXX

    REASONXXX eastside Member

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    YEAH that would be great, please pm me the info for that guy,or give him mine.

    yeah it would be nice to redo this gun,just for kicks anyways.
     
  14. warnerwh

    warnerwh Portland, OR Member

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