Winchester Short Mag, Remington Ultra Mag, Ruger Compact Mag, the craze continues, I'm still shooting rounds like 7x57 mauser, 280 Remington, 300 Savage, 8x57 mauser, 30-30 & 375 Winchester. Of course the longest shot I've taken at an animal is 175 yards or thereabouts, but I figure the 7mm's & the 8mm are good to 300-350 yds or so in my hands, probably wouldn't shoot any farther than that (in absolutely perfect conditions, no wind, good rest etc...) Knowing ballistics and range time is all well and good, but practicing in field positions is how I determine my capabilities. Finding places to shoot those distances can be challenging, but worth it when you find it. haven't shot factory ammo in over 25+ years. Anybody else with me on any of this ??