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Would you open fire on a Navy frigate?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by MarkSBG, Apr 1, 2010.

  1. MarkSBG

    MarkSBG Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    These guys did. Your Ak-47, RPG, or 50 cal is not going to get you out of this situation.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36131357/ns/world_news-africa/?gt1=43001

     
  2. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Is this the naval version of taking a knife to a gun fight?
     
  3. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    I would probably not open fire on a Navy frigate unless I had at least a dozen modern anti-ship missiles and a secure way to receive the ransom.
     
  4. dobeman

    dobeman Hillsboro Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I'm glad the Frigate shot back. Are we sure they didn't offend anyone?
     
  5. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Not to go too off topic, but the following is a pretty interesting read on some if the shore to ship missiles that Iran has deployed.

    http://www.rense.com/general59/theSunburniransawesome.htm

    It's pretty long so I didn't paste it.
     
  6. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    They took a stick to a cannon range.....
     
  7. Russianfist

    Russianfist Sweet home, Oregon Active Member

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    Isn't this the second or third time they have gone after naval vessel? I don't remember which other country's navy though, Danish maybe?
    Regardless, I get the feeling that when they are doing this that they are trying to goad the allied Navys in to a fight.

    This may sound paranoid folks but have the feeling al Qaeda's behind this.
     
  8. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    One too many hits from the bong.

    Why would someone want to fire on the USN, who are still wanting payback from the USS Cole?

    How does that song go?

    "I could have let the USN navy Frigate go by.... but instead I was high...."

    SF-
     
  9. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    Maybe the pirates thought that they could do a great April Fools prank :D
     
  10. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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  11. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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  12. timbernet

    timbernet Boring, Oregon Member

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    Would you open fire on a Navy frigate? Sure! If I had a death wish!


    Stupid pirates....
     
  13. jordanvraptor

    jordanvraptor Oregon City, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The reality is that the engagement was probably done at night and the pirates obviously did not positively identify their intended target... If it was during the day then they are just plain stupid. Light and fast speedboats can be a hard target to hit and with RPG's they can punch some holes in a warships hull. The area of destruction is very limited though. It could start a small fire but I doubt it could do anything major unless an RPG hit the 3 inch gun turret and set off some ammunition. The USS Stark took two Exocet missiles and stayed afloat though it was definitely disabled. Machine gun fire might be able to disable its radar and communication antennas and prevent the frigate from engaging with its 3 inch gun. THis could give the pirates time to get out of small arms range but it would take precision hits and is doubtful. The frigate's missile systems would be pretty much useless in a short range fight. I doubt they even used the CIWS 20mm gatling gun in manual mode. Probably was a straight up machine gun fight with .50 cals and M60s. At least the Master at Arms guys got to have some trigger time. :)
     
  14. Seafarinman

    Seafarinman Washington State Member

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    I was on a Frigate from 2004-2008 and our 76mm gun was not the most reliable out there! No missiles aboard anymore, but we did have the .50's and the 25mm chaingun. Definitely not a smart idea to attack any armed military vessel!
     
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    bcp SW WA Member

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    From:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...0.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird

    The USS Nicholas took fire just after midnight from a small skiff, according to a statement from U.S. Africa Command. The guided-missile frigate, which was patrolling west of the island nation of the Seychelles, fired back, chased down the skiff and detained three people on board, according to Lt. Patrick Foughty, spokesman for U.S. Naval Forces Africa.

    ...........
    ....But in the dark, the pirates may have mistaken the warship for the many cargo ships that have brought them lucrative ransoms.
     
  16. vietboy1st

    vietboy1st Boston, Massachusetts Member

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    ahha these idiots are dumb. They think they won the conflict in somalia and think american military is weak. and tried to shoot a naval ship. HAHa. Lucky the US Navy didn't shoot them back with the rocket or cannon. XD.
     
  17. Throckmorton

    Throckmorton Florence,Ore ah gone Well-Known Member

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    What I want to know is why did we take prisoners?? !! GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
     
  18. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Most of these people have not even seen a light bulb or running water or a septic system. Their lives are savage and brutal, whatta expect? Average African IQ is about 70, BTW

    Welcome them to your neighborhoods, folks, many are flooding in with the help of church groups and the State Dept :(
     
  19. greydog111

    greydog111 peoples repubilik of Oregon Active Member

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    Just saw a job offering for armed maritime security. They want combat experienced Marine Corps Vets. My wife said no! Your too old and you'd be gone too much. So much for my fantasy of taking down pirates and other "tangos". Greydog.:cool:
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Suicide by Navy.