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Wonder if the prez got his prescription yet :)

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by U201491, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    No anti gun measure is funny, but this may be the exception.
    Even the Newtown folks are not stupid.

    Newtown unanimously adopts new firearms ordinance, http://fxn.ws/18LTxuU


    Tuesday, September 10, 2013

    Town officials have unanimously approved a firearms ordinance limiting recreational shooting in Newtown.

    The first debate on the proposal was held more than a year ago, before the Dec. 14 massacre in which a gunman killed 20 children and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

    Legislative Council President Jeff Capeci said Monday that the ordinance balanced the views of those seeking to protect their Second Amendment rights and others who worry about safety and nuisance problems, The News Times reported.

    "It's a good compromise considering the varying interests," Capeci told the newspaper.

    Hundreds of people offered about 200 hours of testimony over the course of the debate on the ordinance.

    The ordinance approved last week by the Legislative Council says no resident may shoot for more than four hours after police are notified and shooting is limited to one person at a time. Target backstops are required and must be 10 feet above the target.

    No shooting is allowed within a half-mile of a school.

    The ordinance is targeted at recreational shooting and does not affect hunters or gun salutes for memorial events and tributes.
     
  2. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    I'm confused as to what this has to do with the King's prescription?

    Also, "no resident may shoot for more than four hours after police are notified". What does that mean? So, if I go to a range(in CT, of course) an someone else shoots at the same time I do, I am in violation of the law? How would I be liable for a stranger discharging a firearm?

    This seems like the type of crap we end up with when we let ourselves get pinned for what some bat-bubblegum crazy POS did. The only CT citizen guilty of that crime is dead. What a crock of bubblegum. Schools are more safe if you hinder recreational shooting? In what fantasy?
     
  3. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    Another issue where the firearms enthusiast makes the compromise. When are the anti's going to compromise by allowing more shooting range facilities within the city, allowing night shoots at lighted facilities, making it easier to carry concealed for those who wish to, allowing open carry for those who wish to, etc. !!
     
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  4. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Never compromise! And this psychobabble unconstitutional ordinance is a prime example of discrimination against the firearm enthusiast community via irrational and illogical politicians and shouldn't be tolerated.

    More "Feel good" laws and ordinances that have nothing to do with stopping criminals or real threats. Sick.
     
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  5. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    If you look at the ordinance, it pretty much spits in the face of the anti gun idiots. Especially considering where it is.
    Pretty much says if the shooting annoys someone, ya have 4 hrs to stop til the next day. :)
    Dont know about anyone else, but it can pretty much deplete the bank shooting for more than 4 hours. In 4 hours, I could wipe out a thousand rounds. My range time is usually over in about an hr or hr and a half. And having a good backdrop is just good sense.
    The law was just a placebo to shut up the idiot anti's.
     
  6. Will_Power

    Will_Power OR via OK Active Member

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    "Compromise."


    I don't think that word means what they think it does.
     
  7. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    I can only act for and speak for myself. Please don't misunderstand me, as I am not making these statements AT you only using your statements to go from. I think it's more important to move away from this idea of "allowance". I need no ones allowance to carry anywhere and any way that I choose. As far as range facilities in a given city, I am of the opinion that if a business owner has his facility bullet-proofed as well as sound-proofed, where lies the problem and how does a neighbor, net door or 2 miles away have a say? There is obviously the issue of communities and I understand that, but we really lost our way when we went from a nation of individuals to a collective.

    I know that there are a lot of scared people that point to any free man holding on to his individuality as an attempted "sovereign citizen", but is that all we have? Either a Socialist hoard or a sea of individual "nations"? How did we live for a good 150 years as individuals(GOOD years, I might add.) before things like a Federal Income Tax, Social Security and other illegal steps toward Socialism put the noose around our necks? No more for me. I am in fact free and will apologize for no one. A proper America will find a given community holding the oppressors accountable. Those that don't, reap what they sew.

    It is finally September. The fight will have to come to my door, but let it come. Enduring these horrors is worse than any fight we could have to right the ship, whether it is able to be righted at this point remains to be seen.
     
  8. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    Well, now the "4 hours after the cops are called" deal makes sense and yes, it is completely absurd. I think if I were a CT resident that could be bothered by this, I would carry enough ammo(damn the cost) to make the 4 hours sound like downtown Damascus.

    No kidding, that is a worthless and silly ordinance. Still, the infringement is BS.
     
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  9. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    what if the cops don't show up untill 4.5 hrs have passed and you are still shooting. You are in violation of the law because it didn't say anything about when the cops inform you or show up (we always have to read between the lines)
     
  10. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Dont get me wrong. I am 100% against compromise of any kind and the NRA will verify that. I am on there azz non stop about NO MORE COMPROMISES.
    Just thought that in the town of the shooting they would have totally destroyed the second amendment, but looks like they had a little more common sense than what one would have thought.
    One reason I like GOA is their no compromise stance. The NRA would be too if more members voiced their outrage at compromise to them on a regular basis. The actually go listen, and definitely to voting members. They are probably bandaging their ears from my gripes about compromises.
     
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  11. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Politicians do not know what the hell they are doing, they have no idea about what will do any good to combat gun violence. All they know is what they hear from the gun zealots who want total control over gun owners, that's it!!!
     
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    BigStick Sherwood, OR Well-Known Member

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    The way I read it, it could say that after the police are called (and presumably show up) to a place where shooting occurs, you are not allowed to shoot again for 4 hours. And only 1 person shooting at a time? Does that mean per group, or per location, or per lane? That could really suck to only allow one shooter on a line at a time.
     
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    Doesn't have to make sense, just fit an agenda. 4 hour limit today, 2 hours tomorrow, only on weekends next, then only with special permission of a never-available sheriff. No infringement to see here, move along.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    He'll need tranks prozac that he pretty much lost another one.
     
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    BigStick Sherwood, OR Well-Known Member

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    I don't think this is a loss for their side. Any more regulations is a bad start.
     
  16. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    Exactly how I feel about the speed limits! And I agree with your perspective.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that is true, but sure not a big win either.
    You are correct though.
     
  18. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    I imagine for this to hold even illegal water, it must be a situation where the police tell you that they have received a complaint and that in 4 hours the shooting must stop. Whether they show up or make a phone call, you can't be responsible for an unknown conversation between the Thugs and the fa ggy citizen that called.

    Scared, Foolish, Low-Information Democrat: "Gosh, people in the city with guns? Why would they do that when we already have police?"

    Me: "Uh, a better question would be "Why do our leaders think we need oppressive police, when we already have a right to keep and bear arms? The 2A isn't redundant, the illegal cops are.""

    Scared, Foolish, Low-Information Democrat: Blank stare.

    Of course, you can replace "Scared, Foolish, Low-Information Democrat" with "Lindsey Graham Supporting Republican" or "Progressive Fill-In-The-Blank".

    It's a disgusting mess we live in. All the scared folks that refuse to protect themselves will get what they ask for. A community that gives up it's rights will be the first to live in chains. Remember, no one can take your rights. They can take your life, but only you can give up your rights. Mine stay with me until death. Any punk thug cop or criminal(exactly the same, save the badge.) that thinks I'm a target with a limp and a cane will surely have another thing coming.
     
  19. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    Well(and again, for the sake of argument), speed limits are a contract that you enter when you enter the world of driving. While I believe that certain speed limits are ridiculous, I don't know about the complete dismissal of speed limits, as there is no "Right To Keep And Bear Automobiles" that shall not be infringed upon. That of course can be argued with our guaranteed right to free passage between the states, but of course there is no mention of cars. At the same time, I wouldn't drive down residential streets at high speeds because I give a shiite about people, not because a law tells me not to. I guess if we are going to have individual freedom, we need to allow people to drive as they want to and deal with the consequences. I can tell you that if someone hauled *** on a street my son was playing on(we live on a country highway, maybe not the best example. Prior to that, we lived in Portland on NE Hassalo near the Donald E. Long Home. That would be a better example.), 1,000 times out of 1,000 I am not calling the cops, but dealing with it myself. I guess I just argued myself in a circle and am agreeing with you. I'd rather some *** hole deal with me than a traffic ticket and I don't need some cop feeling up my family because he CLAIMS I was driving too fast.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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