National With Firearm Made From Two Serialized Receivers, Which Receiver Is Recorded On Transfer?

[arakboss]

Question in title.

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[3MTA3]

I'd figure both. A single 4473 can do up to three.

 

[Member 53328]

Both… it's not flip a coin.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

OK I'm at a total lose as to which firearm would have enough variation in SN placement that you could end up assembling a complete firearm with 2 SN's, and by extension does that mean that you could take the leftover parts and assemble ANOTHER complete firearm with no SN?

 

[User 1234]

Which make and model gun are we discussing here?

 

[HotRodGuy]

Would serial numbers from both be visible?

 

[arakboss]

Would serial numbers from both be visible?

yes

 

[arakboss]

Which make and model gun are we discussing here?

AR lower and barreled action from take your pick rifle or shotgun.

 

[Stomper]

Overall, it's about government gun registries so they can confiscate your firearms when you're declared a "domestic terrorist" for disagreeing with government edicts.


Full stop.

 

[HotRodGuy]

yes

Both will have to be listed. Same as some AR belt fed uppers and 50BMG uppers.

Building an AR lever or bolt action?

 

[dangerranger60]

My mind took me to a weld up project, and the thought that you should put your own unique serial on it! DR

 

[arakboss]

My mind took me to a weld up project, and the thought that you should put your own unique serial on it! DR

I thought it was illegal to remove serial numbers?

 

[matts]

Just add one to it!

 

[titsonritz]

Start with an 80%, serialize it with other action's number.

 

[arakboss]

Here is another semi related question.

If I build a slamfire 12ga Firearm (26+ OAL and 18.5+ barrel) and mount it on top of a serialized glock 17 or 19 frame (that was sold and transferred to me as a frame, will that Firearm be transferred as a shotgun to a person in WA or CA?

Could I use the serial number on the glock frame for transfer purposes or would I add a new serial number?

Edit: I will mock up one this weekend with a unstarted P80 frame to demonstrate what I am asking about. The stripped Glock frame would serve as the main pistol grip and as a location for the Firearm's barrel assy to be mounted.

 

[Alexx1401]

AR lower and barreled action from take your pick rifle or shotgun.

Now that would be an interesting transfer in places like WA.

 

[arakboss]

Now that would be an interesting transfer in places like WA.

My guess is I will tire of my many frankenguns one of these days and try to part with them. If any person decides to gamble and buy one it will probably make for an interesting transfer process.

 

[J&B Firearm Sales Inc.]

As a few folks already mentioned yes both SN#s will go on the 4473.

An example is this .50BMG upper a client had transferred in and also had a lower built for, transferred to him as two firearms.

 

[Barfly]

As a few folks already mentioned yes both SN#s will go on the 4473.

An example is this .50BMG upper a client had transferred in and also had a lower built for, transferred to him as two firearms.

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woah, wait a min... .50bmg AR upper was serialized? That's not a firearm per ATF, why a serial?

 

[J&B Firearm Sales Inc.]

woah, wait a min... .50bmg AR upper was serialized? That's not a firearm per ATF, why a serial?

Up until a few years ago that was the case:

Breaking News: ATF Is Classifying .50 Cal Bolt Action AR Uppers As Firearm -

A new letter was sent by the ATF to a number of firearm manufacturers. Safety Harbor Firearms received one of these letter stating that their .50 BMG bolt action upper should be considered a firearm and should be marked as such.

www.thefirearmblog.com

I can't recall the exact measurement but they started defining uppers with a caliber over a certain measurement as firearms.