Quantcast
  1. Sign up now and join over 35,000 northwest gun owners. It's quick, easy, and 100% free!

Winchester serial number research

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Silver Fox, Nov 27, 2010.

  1. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,187
    Likes Received:
    290
    My little brother (not by blood but being my best friends little brother who I have known for over 25 years) inherited a Winchester Mdl 94 .30-30 with a 5 digit serial number starting with a 78XXX. He runs the family farm and doesn't have time to research it himself. He is the 4th generation to own this rifle and is wondering what year it was made.

    I am looking for a web sight or other reference that give me the date.

    Thanks.

    SF-
     
  2. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,262
    Likes Received:
    3,077
  3. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,187
    Likes Received:
    290
    Thank you so much!!!! His rifle was made in 1897. Any idea what the value is on that? That will be his next question.

    SF-
     
  4. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,187
    Likes Received:
    290
    Hey Mods-

    could y'all sticky that in the rifle section?

    SF-
     
  5. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    4,914
    Likes Received:
    5,863
    Blackpowderx
     
  6. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,262
    Likes Received:
    3,077
    Glad to help. Lots of variables that contribute to value. Overall condition, originality, amount made that year and any 'key' features it may have. I am currently going through this process myself as I am looking to add a '94 in 25-35 to my collection and prices are all over the map but I am beginning to get a handle on it so I can have an 'educated' guess when I head out to look at one. Try Gunbroker or Gunsamerica as a starting point.
     
  7. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,187
    Likes Received:
    290
    10-4.

    I figured early on Winchesters was something I wasn't going to get into with my OCD personality traits. I was born in the wrong generation to be collecting Winchesters.

    Thank you for your help.

    SF-
     
  8. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,187
    Likes Received:
    290
    That seems to be for Remnigtons only but should also be stickied, just MHO.

    SF-
     
  9. jordanvraptor

    jordanvraptor Oregon City, Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,667
    Likes Received:
    369
    Ah the stories they could tell... I go through guns like some women go through shoes but there is one gun I have had the longest, a Winchester 1892 made in 1894. Kind of exciting owning and shooting something over one hundred years old. Its cool that its been in his family for so long.
     
  10. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    4,914
    Likes Received:
    5,863
    DOH! Apparently I wasn't awake.
     
  11. PinkhamR

    PinkhamR Altus, Oklahoma MSgt, USAF (Retired)-FFL Lifetime Supporter

    Messages:
    3,280
    Likes Received:
    513
    Must have been a .30 WCF ???
     
  12. rdb241

    rdb241 Puyallup Washington Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

    Messages:
    2,608
    Likes Received:
    2,135
    I have a 94 and have learned that if it is stamped .30WCF that means the gun was made prior to 1931. Winchester Center Fire. Mine is stamped that way.
     
  13. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,262
    Likes Received:
    3,077
    First thing would be a basic identification of the rifle. Does his rifle have a 22, 24 or 26" octagon, half octagon or round barrel with a forestock end cap? If so this would be a true Model 94 or does it have the 20" round barrel with barrel bands? If so then he has a Model 94 Carbine which is the style we commonly see and call a Model 94. Big difference in value. The true Model 94's can be worth double or more over the carbine but like I said condition is everything. A few weeks ago a 1908 Mod 94 carbine in 25-35 popped up for sale locally so I went to look at it and the poor guy selling it must have got some real bad information. He was asking $1200.00 for it but the reality was (and given it's condition) it was maybe a $200.00 wall hanger and then it needed work for just that.
     
  14. Spitpatch

    Spitpatch Forest Grove, Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,801
    Likes Received:
    836
    As to value, and with info provided, I can answer that question with absolute accuracy.

    A Winchester 94, made in 1897, handed down 4 generations to its present owner is absolutely priceless.

    Sale value (for insurance purposes, etc.) is more problematic: Condition is everything. Rifle or carbine? Round or octagon barrel? Saddle ring? Sights?
    No one could put a price on it without actually seeing the gun first hand.

    Tell your ersatz brother to go hunting with it, think about his ancestors who did the same, and on a solitary hunt he will feel a presence that is palpable.

    Great Grandpa will whisper where that buck is waiting.
     
  15. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,187
    Likes Received:
    290
    His dad, whose been like my dad for the 25 years, says it shoots great and a little to the right.

    I've been asking for pics from him. Will post them as soon as I get them.

    SF-
     
  16. k7grc

    k7grc Banks, Or Active Member

    Messages:
    332
    Likes Received:
    50
    the above link is based off the research of G. Madis, which has been proven to be off by several years.

    Dates are available from Cody Museum based on the original polish room records from Winchester.

    here is a time line for you 78XXX.

    77924 - 3-29-1900
    78333 - 9-12-1900
    79036 - 1-8-1900

    should put you ~4/1900.
    You can also request a build record of your rifle from Cody Museum.

    Gordon
     
  17. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,187
    Likes Received:
    290
    Do you have a link?

    SF-
     
  18. k7grc

    k7grc Banks, Or Active Member

    Messages:
    332
    Likes Received:
    50