Its an honest assessment. I think running to the engagement is less necessary than not running from it if it presents itself.Much discussion has taken place on this subject, my priorities are to ensure those I’m responsible for are safe and sound. Once getting my loved ones out of the situation, to safety, it’s difficult to say what I’d really do next.
Part of me wants to go home with the family, but part of me knows others would be in jeopardy if there were no intervention. So I guess I’d engage is possible, but might not go searching for the engagement, that’s to be left to sworn peace officers...
Geez, I’m wishy washy today...
Run - Toward EnemyWhen?
That falls so much on the individual. Some as previously mentioned are wired to engage, some are not. Some are wired to clean up (counseling, etc) and some just exist.
I roll though situations in my head a lot based on where I am and what I’m doing, carrying or even driving. The ‘what would I do’ could be seeing an engagement with an officer while I’m driving and I can end it by smashing said combatant against the front license plate. Sure I’ll do that.
At the end of the day, each has to answer to themself on what their level of involvement will be that will allow them to sleep at night.
I used to play shoot em up video games and I was always the player with the highest kill:death ratio. I always engaged from cover, snuck around, avoided being seen. While some would have a K : D of 1:1, mine was around 12:1. It’s my nature to be slow and methodical. Running in guns blazing is not me. I’m more like Gerard Butler in ‘Law Biding Citizen”.
I die, wife basically wins the lottery with the life insurance. She gets to replace my salary with some other dude who got better grades in college and has a job that doesn’t leave him moody, irritable and jaded. He won’t have to work as many hours and will be more emotionally available. Kid gets college paid for.If some crazy has an AR or AK and I’m standing there with my pocket .380, I’ll be very judicious of engagement. If I can pop the BG from concealment with a decent chance of changing the outcome I will. And yes, I practice. But if you’re much outside of 25’ the odds of a headshot drop considerably.
A dead hero doesn’t serve my wife or kids very well.
I found myself reacting like that the other morning coming home from work. Tired, music playing away, kind of on auto pilot almost home. I spot some guy walking on the shoulder facing on coming traffic who caught my attention because he looked "sketchy". No sooner did I "notice" him a county LEO coming towards me comes across the lanes, pulls up to him and gets out. I almost pulled in on the other side of them before even thinking. Did not as in that second I thought he is on his own last thing he needs is a strange vehicle pull up to him now. I did pull to the side just past what was happening to watch from the mirrors. If it had turned into physical I would have jumped in since the LEO was alone. I had the music playing in the car loud enough I did not hear what the LEO had just said over his radio as to why he did what he did. Now I was listening and did hear him say he had the guy detained. So I kept going on home.I see it as overthinking. Every call I hear or everything I see go sideways, I’m compelled intrinsically to help. If lizard brain says to get some, I’m not going to override him.
Used to work with a young guy who was former Airborne. showed him a thing I found went something like "small groups of soldiers who run towards the sound of gun fire and kill everyone who is not dressed like them". I know I am not quoting it exactly right but he did love it when I showed it to him.Run - Toward Enemy
Hide - Cover and Concealment
Fight - Kill
Its good that you are that way. My only argument is how are the cops going to know if you are the good guy or bad guy? When you have your gun out and shooting, it may be hard to figure out. Unless you have a halo and wings on your back, so the cops know you are an angel and there to save everyone...In many threads we talk about our willingness to engage a threat in the public. Be it an active shooter or whatever. We’ve been all over the spectrum from those that would run toward the gunfire or those that feel their responsibility is to make sure mom or dad gets home safe.
In my line of work, it would be completely inappropriate to not run toward a fight (at least when I can run again). I’m wired that way. Some of my coworkers think I’m a little crazy, I think they’re kinda lazy. I’ve never seen a fight I didn’t want to be in.
But as a husband and father, I know my attitude scares my wife and may leave my daughter fatherless someday. But I think my attitude makes it more likely I survive and in turn, so may others.
When you engage people bent on racking up casualties, their effectiveness decreases when they get introduced to return fire. North Hollywood is a great example. The media showed all sorts of scary footage of those guys shooting up the place and it made the cops look helpless.
But were they really? Yeah, they were outgunned, scared and didn’t want to die. But they shot back. The result? No officers were fatally injured. The only 2 casualties were the bad guys.
I think thats a case for why putting yourself in the mindset to fight might be your best way to survive.
Pretty sure they will see a guy in uniform just like them!!Its good that you are that way. My only argument is how are the cops going to know if you are the good guy or bad guy? When you have your gun out and shooting, it may be hard to figure out. Unless you have a halo and wings on your back, so the cops know you are an angel and there to save everyone...