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Hell dude, PROHIBITION. Mobs, racketeering...there's a reason why the National Firearms Act of 1934 went into law.


Even I didn't need a source for that!

the 34 was passed largely using the same tactics as the modern bans are.. purposeful fear mongering and propaganda

BTW there are at least now 320 million functional firearms in the USA
 
In today's political world it's hard to define who is a Conservative or Who is a Liberal.I think most Republicans at the Federal level are either Liberal's or Neo-Con's.Ether way, they have joined forces with Democrats to disarm Americans.Even the gun owners friend the NRA, have signed off on legislation that weakens the Second A. The old give them a little so they don't take a lot theory. "It don't work" It just takes a little longer to disarm, but still doing it little by little.

The two political parties have morphed into one beast of a party, and nothing short of voting them all out will make a difference worth mentioning. We know that isn't going to happen! Just look at the last Presidential Primary election. We had a chance to choose the only man running, that would stand behind the second A and the Constitution 100%, and instead chose a Liberal to run against one.

I guess we get what we deserve:huh:
 
Sigh, to repeat, if poverty is the reason for crime why is there relatively little in white Appalachia?

Yes, it is not poverty. Many good people are poor, some even by choice. With an honest man I think most really do not put a priority on becoming wealthy, but some do, but that is also not a crime.. Criminals are raised and brought to their lifestyle by peers and parents that do not want to be bothered with teaching ethics or morality, and some may real mental issues, but no one tried to fix them.
Being poor does not make people criminals unless they have pressures put on them to "have" to be "in" and taught to take instead of work.
 
If you're educated and make a good living you're less likely to murder people.

If we had socialized health care then people with mental issues would be cared for instead of at the mercy of insurance companies. Anyone willing to kill people en mass is not mentally sound.

I know most people here disagree with my views. In not interested in getting too deep into politics online. It's all opinions and perspectives, and few if us are truly interested in anything beyond hearing our own voices over and over.

Yes, trading the mercy of insurance companies for the mercy of government is clearly a wise idea. Who will you complain to when you have a problem with government healtcare? The government run courts? No conflict of interest there.

Mass murder is defined by the FBI as four or more people killed fairly rapidly in one event. Are those women who get 4 or more abortions not mentally sound? Since you support socialized medicine, is it ok for the government to regulate your body completely, including abortion? If not, thus a woman's reproductive rights are sacrosanct (I tend to agree with that myself), why not the rest of her body and all of men's bodies too? How can you sqauare that circle to justify socialized medicine? We aren't equal? So the 4th and 14th ammendment are wrong?

At this point, the 2nd ammendment is all thats defending you from being a slave (and its not doing so well on that front IMHO).
 
I agree but I remember how liberals have been arguing for gun control since the summer of 1968 when they used Martian Luther Kings and Robert Kennedys killings as a reason to enact all sorts of laws none of which would have changed either event.

Where those guns used not bolt actions with limited magazines? I agree with most of the article except the real reason to go after AR 15 is the only weapon we the people could use to hold of an army of bad guys foreign or domestic. We know that this administration has us leaning in the domestic direction of tyranny.
 
Where those guns used not bolt actions with limited magazines? I agree with most of the article except the real reason to go after AR 15 is the only weapon we the people could use to hold of an army of bad guys foreign or domestic. We know that this administration has us leaning in the domestic direction of tyranny.

Yes they were, with much greater range and power. Liberal social marxists and communists want power to repress and they can never have that as long as the citizens have modern firearms to repel them. We MUST NOT ever allow ourselves to be disarmed .
Live free or die are not just words in a book. There is no vallue to life without freedom ! That is how our country was made and made strong. We are strong and God willing will remain strong. More than that it is our will that is strong and you need to commit to that every day of your life. You can never allow yourself to be silenced in building that strength. A tyrant has no power except what is given to them.
Live free, honest and moral lives and stand should the time come to defend our freedoms.
Its called HONOR.
 
Yes they were, with much greater range and power. Liberal social marxists and communists want power to repress and they can never have that as long as the citizens have modern firearms to repel them. We MUST NOT ever allow ourselves to be disarmed .
Live free or die are not just words in a book. There is no vallue to life without freedom ! That is how our country was made and made strong. We are strong and God willing will remain strong. More than that it is our will that is strong and you need to commit to that every day of your life. You can never allow yourself to be silenced in building that strength. A tyrant has no power except what is given to them.
Live free, honest and moral lives and stand should the time come to defend our freedoms.
Its called HONOR.

I can add nothing to this !!! :s0155::s0155::s0155::s0155::s0155::s0155:
 
I disagree completely: the complete aim or "Gun Control" is power: ABSOLUTE POWER AND CONTROL OF THE COUNTRY. It was easy for the Nazis to stomp out opposition after using gun registration to CONFICATE all firearms in Germany. Gun Controllers are just trying to take power so they can persecute others with impunity, like those Nazis did for a while. Once they win this fight WHO WILL RESCUE US??? There will be no invading army coming to liberate us from tyranny as we did the British and French. Lol
 
I disagree completely: the complete aim or "Gun Control" is power: ABSOLUTE POWER AND CONTROL OF THE COUNTRY. It was easy for the Nazis to stomp out opposition after using gun registration to CONFICATE all firearms in Germany. Gun Controllers are just trying to take power so they can persecute others with impunity, like those Nazis did for a while. Once they win this fight WHO WILL RESCUE US??? There will be no invading army coming to liberate us from tyranny as we did the British and French. Lol

We will rescue ourselves by never allowing that to happen here !
What will you do?
We do not depend on anyone else to do what we will prevent ourselves.
 
My take on it is that if politicians and other lawmakers really cared about the REAL reasons for some of the higher profile gun violence, they would overhaul the mental health systems. They would prosecute violations of the existing gun control laws, such as providing false information on a firearms application, or violations of existing felonies. Truth is, it IS all about control... you can't tell me they don't know full well that none of their regulations, registrations or other 'feel good' measures won't prevent Newtown or Aurora type incidents.
 
I disagree:
Liberals are Communists and Communists want to destroy America and rule the world, that is not a 'culture' it is a psychopathy, a mental disease which spreads through deceit, extortion, torture and murder, Obama being a prime example of it's prime carriers, those with deformed personalities.
Dan Baum has been pushing his tripe for almost 2 years now.
Baum wants you to believe in Culture not Constitution or God Given Rights because cultures can be changed once the Constitution has been dismissed.
This guy is another Leftist out for 'Reasonable Gun Restrictions' (civilian disarmament) to further the Socialist Agenda.
 
I disagree:
Liberals are Communists and Communists want to destroy America and rule the world, that is not a 'culture' it is a psychopathy, a mental disease which spreads through deceit, extortion, torture and murder, Obama being a prime example of it's prime carriers, those with deformed personalities.
Dan Baum has been pushing his tripe for almost 2 years now.
Baum wants you to believe in Culture not Constitution or God Given Rights because cultures can be changed once the Constitution has been dismissed.
This guy is another Leftist out for 'Reasonable Gun Restrictions' (civilian disarmament) to further the Socialist Agenda.

True. Many have fallen to marxism and communist ways of thinking without even realizing they have.
Control belongs to the people, not politicians. You cannot have part of the constitution without jeopardizing all of it. Either support it 100% or admit that you have fallen under their bus.
Stand for 100% of the US Constitution and fix what is wrong with America. Anything less and those leftists as described have their tentacles embedded in you.
America was intended and is intended to be a free republic led by a "rotating" representative government of our own. Not a bunch of permanently embedded
Group of criminals.
The second Amendment is the one thing that empowers the people to keep the Constitution intact!
 
True. Many have fallen to marxism and communist ways of thinking without even realizing they have.
Control belongs to the people, not politicians. You cannot have part of the constitution without jeopardizing all of it. Either support it 100% or admit that you have fallen under their bus.
Stand for 100% of the US Constitution and fix what is wrong with America. Anything less and those leftists as described have their tentacles embedded in you.
America was intended and is intended to be a free republic led by a "rotating" representative government of our own. Not a bunch of permanently embedded
Group of criminals.
The second Amendment is the one thing that empowers the people to keep the Constitution intact!

I am a government bureaucrat, and I see this - the descent of falling into the communist thought process - every day within the bureaucratic machine.

The word govern means to control or restrict, which is why we call it government. If you don't control and restrict your government, it will, as its mission, control and restrict you.
 
I am a government bureaucrat, and I see this - the descent of falling into the communist thought process - every day within the bureaucratic machine.

The word govern means to control or restrict, which is why we call it government. If you don't control and restrict your government, it will, as its mission, control and restrict you.

There is truth :s0155:
 

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