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Why not 45 acp

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by uban77, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. uban77

    uban77 Maui, HI. Luck favors the prepared.

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    Why would you want anything but, 45 acp?
     
  2. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    Women have more gentle hands and can't handle the manly recoil from a .45.

    Sissys are the same way.
     
  3. derrickrf

    derrickrf vancouver wa Member

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    Maybe this thread is supposed to be humorous, I just hope that when your hands become riddled with arthritis that you are man enough to keep shooting .45.
     
  4. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    What are you talking about????

    I'm a sissy........:laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
  5. uban77

    uban77 Maui, HI. Luck favors the prepared.

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    Recoil can br lower by going with 185 grain bullets or lighter loads.
     
  6. Correctthought

    Correctthought The big PDX and Vicinity Member

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    Diversity is our strength? :huh:
     
  7. the4thshake

    the4thshake Portland Active Member

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    I think the recoil of a 45 is fairly mild even with +P loads. Where it stings is my wallet.
     
  8. uban77

    uban77 Maui, HI. Luck favors the prepared.

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    I have a Kahr cw45. Going with 200 gr bullets. Made double tapping a breeze. If I went 185gr bullets. Felt recoil was like a 308. Felt recoil can be lower even farther, by reloading lighter loads.
     
  9. Uberdillo

    Uberdillo Oregon Active Member

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    :paranoid:

    Me thinks there's an extra zero there but the thought of .45 loaded to 2,600 ft/s would make for some awesome terminal ballistics.
     
  10. orygun

    orygun West Linn Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    My daughter is 5'2 and about 110. Her gun is a TCP .380. She whipped thru a whole mag of .45s in my CBOB with no problem. After she shot it she asked what it was. If it would fit in her purse easily she would probably take it from me.:) Therein lies what may be the biggest reason to not carry a .45. Most of the guns are fairly large and/or heavy.
    I carry the CBOB most of the time, but there are times I slide my TCP in my jacket pocket. By the way, at 5'9 and 160 I'm not a big guy to be hiding a gun on!

    I've owned and shot many very powerful handguns, up to and including the MONSTER .500 S&W Mag. My first .45 was an aluminum framed Officers. I do work with my hands and maybe that has something to do with it, but I've never felt the .45s recoil was harsh.
     
  11. chemist

    chemist Beaverton OR Well-Known Member

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    I thought this was going to be a "big, slow" versus "small, fast" rehash.
    You can increase the mass or the velocity to put more energy into your target, but the two effects are not interchangeable. The .45 is known for going far enough but not too far, unlike say the .357 mag or sig.

    The reason to not use a .45 is because you need capacity, e.g. if you're a cop or soldier. Me, I'm determined to run the other way from trouble, and the likelihood of needing more than my normal complement of 7 rounds is virtually nil.

    The work of Professor Gary Kleck is enlightening! Statistically speaking, we have a 99+% chance of NEVER needing our CCW. If by chance we DO need it, there's a 98% chance that it will end the confrontation with ZERO shots fired. If perchance you DO need it and you DO need to fire, there's a ~95% chance that it will end with exactly ONE shot fired. Those are some kind of odds! Y'all are welcome to visit gunsite.com to doublecheck these off-the-cuff recollections.

    To those people who point to well-documented shootouts involving massive firepower I say, you have a far greater chance of being hit by lightning. If you want to do something &/or buy something that will realistically increase your odds of survival to old age, might I recommend a:
    1) gym membership;
    2) Chantix prescription; and
    3) full cage with 5-point harness in your daily driver.

    Sadly, these are not as much fun as collecting handguns.
     
  12. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    because the 45acp is small and ineffective when compared to a 46 or 50

    The 45acp is for children under 8 years old, small women, and people who only have 3 fingers.
     
  13. 9mmMike

    9mmMike Gladstone, OR Member

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    I don't carry a .45 but do own one and have carried it a few times. I also do not htink the recoil is bad at all. As said above, it's the weight factor in the .45 handguns that stops me from carrying one. As such, I carry a PM9 . But I do love the feeling of firing the .45.
     
  14. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    Why would you want 45 ACP? It's slow, low capacity in a handgun. Expensive to shoot and train with. Slow to fire due to recoil. And there are better more modern cartridges.










    See, I can do it to.
     
  15. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I'm in that group, all I did was show my .45 through the front window of our MH. I then ran to the back for my 12GA. By the time I got back to the front they were GONE. Once in 25 years of carrying is enough to convince me (and even my wife) that I will continue to carry!

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  16. uban77

    uban77 Maui, HI. Luck favors the prepared.

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    you will need the extra mag with that 9mm. Try the P45. what weight factor. One shoot one target with a 45acp.
     
  17. uban77

    uban77 Maui, HI. Luck favors the prepared.

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    308acp, sorry I was tying on my iphone.
     
  18. NoAim

    NoAim Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    Honestly, if we could get the weight of the 200-230gr load, maintain velocity and recoil properties, but increase capacity, it'd be great. But then the downside would be moving to a longer bullet and people already complain about how a double stack .45 is "too big" and .40 has "too sappy of recoil".

    Another reason....45ACP doesn't have great velocity increase with barrel length like lighter weight 9mm, and thus isn't great in a subgun.
     
  19. nubus

    nubus Guest

    I often carry a .380 or a 9mm, but a .45 is on my beside table.
    That 240gr+P will stop just about anything short of a grizzly bear.
    It's also a stainless frame P220, heavy frame = light recoil.
    I gotta agree, I prefer the .45 for almost every scenario.
     
  20. Mason3379

    Mason3379 Oregon City Active Member

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    Better than shooting a .40! I could see you going to 9mm if not .45! But as we all know.......We pack a .45 because there isn't a .46!