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Why did Zimmerman have a gun

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by DMax, Apr 26, 2012.

  1. DMax

    DMax Yamhill Well-Known Member

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  2. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    That didn't read the way I thought it would.
     
  3. DeanfromOregon

    DeanfromOregon Wilsonville Amateur Ascended Master Platinum Supporter

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    Whoa.
     
  4. accessbob

    accessbob Molalla, OR 2A Supporter

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    Wow, finally a well-written and a, what appears to be, fair article.
     
  5. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Good read and well worth it. Good background info.
     
  6. oasis618

    oasis618 Tacoma, Wa Active Member

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    Very good article indeed.
     
  7. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    That little tidbit sure is refreshing. Way to go, lady. :thumbup:
     
  8. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Truly a day of madness is upon us where (whatever race you are) you cannot even speak the truth without being vilified
     
  9. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the link
     
  10. Rapid1

    Rapid1 Eugene Member

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    I'd welcome him to my neighborhood any day. Must be a huge disappointment for those who have convicted him from the beginning.

    There's a bunch of folks on this board that should really be ashamed of themselves.
     
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    iomatic Portland Member

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    Stepping out. Delete.
     
  12. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    +1 .... + 1 million for Reuters looking beyond the superficial and putting some things into context. Unfortunately, we might be waiting a long darned time to get a similar look at Trayvon Martin.
     
  13. SonicBlue03

    SonicBlue03 Snohomish Well-Known Member

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    Kel-Tec for self defense? Zimmerman is braver than I thought.
     
  14. Mountainman

    Mountainman SW Orygun Member

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    It did the job with one shot, what more could you ask for?
     
  15. Misterbill

    Misterbill Yakima County, Washington New Member

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    Why is this information surprising to anyone?

    I expected that Zimmerman would have some reason for carrying a gun. -As in, it was his RIGHT to do so. That's all anyone should need and indeed all any jury member will ever HEAR.

    The issue is and will remain why Zimmerman shot an unarmed 17-y/o with no history whatever of any violence in response to what seems to me to be a basic misdemeanor assault that Zimmerman himself may well have provoked. -BY HIS OWN TESTIMONY.

    Zimmerman is on VERY shaky legal ground. He may have had the right to shoot or may not have. But in all honesty, that's a question for a jury to decide, not that of a DA. I wouldn't be in Zimmerman's shoes for all the tea in China. But I reiterate here that if he had followed the guidelines of mine, or any other course's I've taken, he wouldn't be in this position today.

    At BEST he made a giant mistake getting out of his car AFTER police had been called to a non-crime situation. He CHOSE to put himself in a situation where some confrontation was extremely likely. In Washington State, this comes VERY close to him becoming the "initial aggressor," where any claim he makes of self-defense becomes moot. He certainly comes nowhere near the 51% certainty required under Florida law which would preclude a criminal prosecution.

    The lesson in this for all of us is: AVOID, if at all possible, any confrontation while armed, unless someone is in imminent physical danger. If you press that limit, you do so at your legal peril.

    There are people who's job it is and whose legal obligations to do so are clear: POLICE AGENTS. That does NOT include random Joe Dumbass thinking he is the king of the neighborhood.
     
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  16. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Trayvvon had a history of violence.. he had just brutally attacked Zimmerman

    Not saying how this case is going to play out even though I have a hunch what really happened, just a factual clarification

    Oh, and one more thing.. when the only tool you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail
     
  17. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    "Brutally"????? Zimmerman may have been punched and got a bump on his head but "brutally attacked"? I don't think the injuries back up your "factual clarification".
     
  18. shayne

    shayne port townsend Active Member

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    see kel tecs work just fine
     
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  19. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Yeah Blitz,how can you call someone banging your head on a curb brutal?
    GEEEZ MAN
     
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  20. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Yep, even my P-40 with a SIG .357 barrel! I carried it daily for years, still have it too and added a P3AT too. In fact I had a LCP, traded it and kept the P3AT.