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Why are used .30-30 Rifles so expensive?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by TangoFoxtrot, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. TangoFoxtrot

    TangoFoxtrot Oregon Member

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    On other nationwide gun forums people keep saying they pick old Winchester 94's for $75 and Marlin .357 Lever actions for $200.

    I've been keeping my eyes on used ones here in Oregon gun shops for years and the going rate is usually about a $50 discount over getting a new one.

    On the used market many people want $100-200 more than the same model would cost new.

    What's up with this phenomenon in Oregon?
     
  2. jordanvraptor

    jordanvraptor Oregon City, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I think people value them more than new because they don't have the new safety systems that are on the new rifles.
     
  3. bwells

    bwells Longview Member

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    I haven't really looked at the Marlins recently, but when I was shopping for a Win. 94 about two years ago, prices seemed to vary quite a bit depending on the store. Since then, the prices on any Winchester lever gun has gone up quite a bit. I haven't looked too closely at them recently, but the ones I have seen seem to start at about $400 for a basic 30-30 in rough shape, and they go up from there. I think people assume that anything that says Winchester is an instant collectible. I got lucky and found mine, a '70s vintage with a top eject (good since I'm a lefty) in good shape for $250. With millions of them out there, I don't know if they'll ever become true collectibles, but there should still be some deals out there, if you're just looking for a shooter.

    My brother's in the same situation right now. After shooting mine, he's been looking for one to buy, but anything in decent shape seems to be over $500. For that kind of money you should be able to find a new Marlin. Ableammo has them in stock. If you like the style of the m94, check out the new Mossbergs. Able has them in stock for $411, and they're pretty good guns.

    I wish the Winchester market was different, but somebody must be paying those prices. If I could find another deal like I got on mine, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
     
  4. bwells

    bwells Longview Member

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    I like the fact that the only "safety" systems it has are a half-cock and a trigger block connected to the lever. Makes it real simple to operate.
     
  5. dario541

    dario541 medford, or 97504 Member

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    One thing that may be bringing prices up is that for a century, the Model 94 Winchester was the most popular rifle sold anywhere. I think that during its lifetime around 8 million were made, the majority in 30-30. Since the bankruptcy of Winchester, NO more are going to be made (statement from FN of Belgium, which purchased the assets of Winchester). So, a lot of people are probably looking for one to place in their collection.
     
  6. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    Coctailer had several not long ago but I don't know if he sold all of them. He had some Marlins and some Winchesters, all brand new IIRC. ?? Seems like the price was closer to $300 each but I can't find the
    thread. :(

    Maybe I'm full of it, too, but you should check with him.

    Edit: OK, here it is. Link to thread
     
  7. Andy

    Andy Aurora, OR Active Member

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    I remember that too. I think $299 was the price. All new. Wish I could find a .357 at that price. :D
     
  8. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I found the thread - inserted link in post above.
     
  9. TangoFoxtrot

    TangoFoxtrot Oregon Member

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    His new ones are less than some really beat up older ones I've looked at.

    But like I said, people in other parts of the country are finding these used for $75-200.

    Do Oregonians love their .30-30's so much that very few used ones hit the market, hence the premium prices in local shops?
     
  10. NorthernBornRebel

    NorthernBornRebel Keizer Member

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    Yeah, I think so. Seems like everyone I talk to around here hunts with a 30-30
     
  11. smonk

    smonk Oregon Member

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    I've been going to Gun shows it the Pacific NW for about 15 years and I've never seen used 30-30's going for 75.00. I have on occasion seen them priced at 175.00-250.00. Mostly the Marlin's are cheaper than the Winchester's. Even at the show last weekend I saw one for less than 300.00. It seems like it was 275.00. If you're patient and look carefully, you can find some deals, but not at every show.

    Remember: "Good things come to those who wait."
     
  12. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Don't know where you're gonna find a '94 for $75, here's a nationwide auction site, check the prices there...

    http://gunbroker.com/Auction/Browse.asp?SearchType=0&Cat=3023
     
  13. dario541

    dario541 medford, or 97504 Member

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    I have been told by some dealers that new Marlins in handgun calibers are very scarce right now. Several people that I know (non-dealers) have tried to special order these types of guns without success.
     
  14. hm1ing

    hm1ing 97051 Member

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    So what would a 1906 - 30/30 go for... today?
     
  15. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    Depends on the brand, model, any special features, and condition. Can you give more description or even post up some pics?
     
  16. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    Here's a link to an early Marlin auction. I think the gun is pretty nice for its age and it has an octagonal barrel. It failed to sell for $995. Link
     
  17. Joe Link

    Joe Link Portland, OR Well-Known Member Staff Member Lifetime Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    The Winchester Model 94 has been one of my favorite rifles since I knew what a rifle was. I've never heard of them selling for less than $200 anywhere. I think they probably hold their value so well because they're such an all around great gun. They're great for hunting, hiking, camping, target practice, and much more.

    I have one a '79 for sale in the classifieds if anyones interested, no use for two of these ;)
     
  18. SOG165

    SOG165 Cent. Or. Member

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    Guess I'm one of the fortunate ones since I picked up my Marlin 336 about a year ago from a private party for $90. It came with the case/leather strap and a couple of boxes of food. I've had a 30-30 for many years and they've been very productive everytime. Can't think of a time when the rifle(s) let me down.

    SOG
     
  19. johnboy

    johnboy Hillsboro Member

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    Here's a chance to double your money.....sell it to me:bluelaugh: