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Who's to blame?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by hottip, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. hottip

    hottip Washington New Member

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    Guess our national leaders didn't expect this, hmm? On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton , Colorado , was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful.
    They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness.. The following is a portion of the transcript:
    "> Since the dawn of creation there has been both good &evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.
    "The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.
    "In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent.
    I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy -- it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best.
    (Mine Also)
    Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
    Your words are empty air.
    You've stripped away our heritage,
    You've outlawed simple prayer.
    Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
    And precious children die.
    You seek for answers everywhere,
    > And ask the question "Why?"
    >You regulate restrictive laws,
    >Through legislative creed.
    And yet you fail to understand,
    That God is what we need!
    "Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs -- politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.
    "As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America , and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA -- I give to you a sincere challenge.. Dare to examine your
    own heart before casting the first stone!
    My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"
    Darrell Scott

    Do what the media did not - - let the nation hear this man's speech. Please send this out to everyone you can.

    God Bless the USA!
  2. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    Mr. Scott did make this statement and he committee meeting was covered by the Associated Press, and several big city newspapers and received more media attention then typically given to subcomittee meetings.

    Last edited: Mar 22, 2012
  3. Glockman19

    Glockman19 Hillsboro Active Member

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    I dont trust snopes one bit.........But I am also curious were the original information came from?
  4. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    Strangely enough if you follow the Snopes link, they have cited all their sources. You may not trust Snopes, but they have listed 7 newspapers cited they pulled the information from. And the original information came from a house sub-committee hearing on the Columbine shooting.
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  5. Bob D

    Bob D Oregon, Cascades Well-Known Member

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    I love it when people will implicitly trust a forwarded chain-letter email from their high-school dropout cousin Bubba, but won't trust a reviewed and verified website like snopes.com. Propogate ignorance!
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  6. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    While I know Snopes isn't always 100% correct, and I do use them from time to time, I have to wonder what isn't truthful about this statement, that the OP's post clearly states:
    Anyone that knows anything about our Congress, and it's procedures, knows that committees are only a portion of the members, and that a subcommittee is a smaller portion yet.
    The statement above clearly states it was a sub-committee of the Judiciary Committee.

    Then there's this:
    It looks to me like the author left out a single word. Inserting the word "members" after the word "Congress," as I just did would make the statement accurate.

    And anyone that doesn't regard members of Congress and their aides as "national leaders" isn't paying attention. They are significant contributors to the making/framing of the policies we live by, and in that sense they are very much a significant portion of our leadership.

    Unless of course you believe as President Obama, and our AG Eric Holder do, that they are the "dear leaders" and policy makers, and have no need for Congress, and seem to hold a general disdain for the processes we have utilized to develop our laws for two centuries.

    I had the good fortune to speak with the father of one of Kip Kinkle's victims at Thurston H.S.
    He said he was very grateful that Kip had decided to use a pistol against those kids that day, and not the car he had stolen after he killed his mom and dad.
    He specifically mentioned how many more kids Kip would have killed or injured if he had driven that car through the groups of kids waiting outside before classes started that morning.

    I agreed with him, and thanked him for his perspective.
  7. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    I have had a problem my entire life of running my mouth before my brain. I see it's spilling over into my posting as well. I get so tired of this stuff be rehashed, propgandized and then emailed to everyone over and over and over again. It was a knee jerk reaction on my part after skimming the OP's post and not reading it. I will amend my initial posting to better reflect the reality.
  8. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    I feel your pain about that.
    It's about time for someone new to the discussions to pop up here and bring up the U.N small arms treaty AGAIN!
    And of course it will be in earth-shaking terms.

    Now if something new about it broke,...

    Same ol' same ol'.
  9. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Read it till he started preaching
    We don't need religion to have morals
    We don't need the fairy tales of the bible to show our children how to be good citizens of the planet.
    We don't need religion and all the money and power hungry churches to decipher right from wrong

    We do need people to start taking accountability for their own actions and START spending time with their children instead of throwing them in front of the TV or computer.
    We need to teach them morals and right from wrong,not someone else
    We need to teach them respect for others and the planet

    Who's to blame?
    We all are to blame.Too many want too much and spend too little time with their children.
    Never teaching the basics or making them feel loved

    We are the ones who didn't vote the politicians out of office and new ones in,allowing then to be free to do whatever they want
    Because we were too busy making money and worrying about the next big car,truck,house or boat.

    We have all fell short on most of these things and WE are all to blame.

    And before you get self righteous,really think back and ask yourself if you have never made any mistakes.