Who owns the weather??? Never Would have guessed

[Carpenter98312]

Just how much control do you think our government has? Do you think that they could control the weather? Think it sounds crazy, think again. They even have it written into law. Oh, I almost forgot, you had better report it to the Secretary of Commerce though if anyone outside the government wants to do it or you may get in trouble. Check out the link below to Cornell law. Make sure you read the definitions page.

[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

Definitions:

(1) The term “Secretary” means the Secretary of Commerce.
(2) The term “person” means any individual, corporation, company, association, firm, partnership, society, joint stock company, any State or local government or any agency thereof, or any other organization, whether commercial or nonprofit, who is performing weather modification activities, except where acting solely as an employee, agent, or independent contractor of the Federal Government.
(3) The term “weather modification” means any activity performed with the intention of producing artificial changes in the composition, behavior, or dynamics of the atmosphere.
(4) The term “United States” includes the several States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and any territory or insular possession of the United States. :huh:

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[Trlsmn]

On earth weather owns you.

 

[cetme]

true that!

 

[Redcap]

Our government is full of idiots and crooks.

 

[trainsktg]

Many locals and states make illegal the collection of rainwater from a private home, claiming it is public water. So much for 'going green'...,

Keith

 

[Redcap]

Many locals and states make illegal the collection of rainwater from a private home, claiming it is public water. So much for 'going green'...,

Keith

Thus, it is your duty to harvest the rainwater in protest.

I'm working on getting a surplus 50,000 gallon bladder for that very purpose.

 

[Sun195]

What does this have to do with 2A legal or political issues?

 

[Carpenter98312]

What does this have to do with 2A legal or political issues?

They say it is illegal to manipulate the weather in any way. So if your an indian doing a rain dance you can be fined up to 10,000.00. That sounds like a legal matter to me.

 

[Trlsmn]

They say it is illegal to manipulate the weather in any way. So if your an indian doing a rain dance you can be fined up to 10,000.00. That sounds like a legal matter to me.

Legal yes but it must be 2nd amendment legal/political. Moved to Off Topic.

 

[riverrat373]

Many locals and states make illegal the collection of rainwater from a private home, claiming it is public water. So much for 'going green'...,

Keith

Bold statement. Give us some specifics, not generalizations.:huh:

 

[TANSTAAFL]

"Climate is what you expect, weather is what you get." - Robert A. Heinlein

This all sounds funny, but it's astonishingly closer to reality than most of us know.

Us fu<king with the weather..
HAARP
Wikipedia: HAARP

Chinese fu<king with the weather..

China Leads Weather Control Race

Russian's fu<king with the weather..
Russian appeal of 'weather control'

Even Bill Gates is fu<king with the weather..
Can Bill Gates Control the Weather?

Attempting to mess with the weather is a terrible friggin idea. It's called a system for a reason; you kick it, it'll kick right back in accordance with the law of unintended consequences. This government law is actually a decent attempt at prevention from private corporations dousing their Iowan corn fields with no check in place to track what happened down the line. Your insurance company would be using chaos theory to determine your rates.

 

[TANSTAAFL]

Bold statement. Give us some specifics, not generalizations.:huh:

He's somewhat right. It's a terribly confusing topic with little guidance to most of us. I know around the Puget Sound it's promoted because the runoff is a giant environmental hazard. That's in a port city though and we want to collect as much as possible. If you're up in an area with natural rivers and ponds it will of course be different.

Best thing I can suggest is to not be a douche, call about your area for guidance and collect appropriately because it's more or less coming down on the individual's responsibility.

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Rainwater Collection in Washington
By Allison Gray, Washington State Department of Ecology

The topic of rainwater collection is a hot one indeed in the state of Washington. In the last few years there have been whisperings and rumors throughout our green building communities that the practice of collecting rainwater off your house is illegal. And like many an urban legend, few know where the truth ends and the falsehoods begin.

With an ever increasing number of people around Washington State considering the use of rainwater to meet some of their water needs, we need to get our facts straight. So here it is in brief – the facts according to the water resources staff at the Department of Ecology.

Rainwater is a water resource of the state
In Washington, state law defines water resources as “all water above, upon, or beneath the surface of the earth, located within the state.” (RCW 43.27A.020) Rainwater is therefore legally considered a water resource of the state.

The Department of Ecology (Ecology) is responsible for managing the State’s water and recognizes that rainwater collection has many benefits. Regulating the use of small amounts of rainwater was probably not the intention of the statute when it was drafted. Unfortunately, clarifying legislation on this matter was unsuccessful in the 2006 Legislature as well as the past five legislative sessions.

Rainwater collection systems

The difficulty in defining the permitting requirements for rainwater collection lies in differentiating between the systems that cause little, if any, impact and those that cause impairment to other water right holders or to the environment. The department does not require permits for systems using de minimus (negligible) amounts of rainwater (e.g., residential rain barrels or ornamental pond kits storing a few hundred gallons).

If not managed, large systems or a significant number of smaller systems could potentially impact existing water rights or harm the environment either now or in the future. Rainwater collection could potentially cause impairment by taking water that would otherwise flow into freshwater streams or aquifers supplying other water right holders, and fish. The impact of rainwater collection systems can depend on their size, location, and the number of systems in a particular area.

Benefits of rainwater collection
Rainwater collection is valued for its many benefits, such as: reducing polluted runoff, providing an alternative to fresh water supplies for non-potable uses like irrigation and toilet flushing, reducing the impact on over-taxed ground and surface water sources, and managing stormwater.

Until clarifying legislation is enacted, Ecology will continue to balance its support of the benefits of rain collection and use with its responsibility to respond to complaints of potential impairment and to avoid future impairment.

For additional information on rainwater harvesting in Washington, including links to past rainwater harvesting legislation and how rainwater collection is being handled in San Juan County, visit Ecology’s Web site at: <broken link removed>

Ecology’s Green Building Group is also available to answer questions about building sustainably in your area. Contact the office closest to you.


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