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whitehouse petition to make federal conceal permit.

Discussion in 'Firearm Legislation & Activism' started by parallax, Jul 18, 2016.

  1. parallax

    parallax eugene, or-gun Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Petition For Universal Recognition of State’s Concealed Weapon Permits and an Interim Federal Concealed Weapon Permit | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/petition-universal-recognition-states-concealed-weapon-permits-and-interim-federal-concealed-weapon-permit-0)

    Not sure how good my internet skills are, as far as cut and paste, but i found this petition to change all the state c.c.w. into a federal c.c.w. not that it forces the gov. to do anything, but lets your voice be heard.
     
  2. edslhead

    edslhead Vanc Gold Supporter Gold Supporter Silver Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Not too sure I'd want the feds in control of CCW permitso_O
     
  3. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Keep the Feds out of it.
    They will screw it up for us somehow
     
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  4. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I can just see it.....
    Well we need a list of all your handguns. You may want to carry each one at some time right?
    Trust us,no one will see the list....
     
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  5. Ralgha

    Ralgha Portland Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    I'm less worried about federal level gun laws than state (Oregon) level right now. Hildabeast won't be able to do anything to guns as long as the Rs can manage to hang on to at least one side of Congress.

    Oregon legislators are a whole different story.
     
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  6. parallax

    parallax eugene, or-gun Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    how do you feel about making all state and the feds honor your state issued c.c.w. in any state that you travel to… just like your drivers license.. I think that part would be a good deal.
     
  7. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    It would still need some federal approval and they screw us some how.
    Just leave it all state by state. You get the right permit,other states accept it.
    #LEAVETHEFEDSOUTOFTHECCPERMIT
     
  8. ChiefStealth

    ChiefStealth Graham, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    Petition from the people or not, I don't see the Federal Government doing this. They have no record of doing anything that is asked for by law abiding pro-gun citizens.
     
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  9. wired

    wired Yakima Well-Known Member

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    Reference the Read ID act to find out how bad the feds can screw up something as simple as a drivers license. They can keep their hands off my carry permit.
     
  10. Hawaiian

    Hawaiian Tigard Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I would not want the feds in control of our carry permits. However, a federal mandate that all states recognize all other states carry permits would be nice. There could be a chance of this after the election, depending who the next President is.
     
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  11. PaulB47

    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    This is short-sighted. Centralization of power is always, eventually, hostile to liberty. In this case, the first thing that would happen is that "constitutional carry" would be eliminated. Vermont et. al. would have to make all its people sign up for a permit.

    The correct way to go is a concept called subsidiarity:
    Subsidiarity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity)
     
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  12. Ralgha

    Ralgha Portland Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    You've got to prioritize. Guns are not under any serious threat right now at the federal level. They are under a huge threat in Oregon. That doesn't mean you should ignore the federal level, but you should certainly focus on the state right now.

    It won't matter if Trump gets elected and makes Abrams tanks available to the general public without a background check when Oregon outlaws everything beyond single shot squirt guns.
     
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    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    o_O
    Guns are not under serious threat at the federal level?:eek:
    I thought I didn't watch enough news:confused:
    I truely believe this election will be a tipping point for gun control nation wide
     
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    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    The other problem with your position is that you are depending for your salvation on the federal government. Nothing could be more foolish. Congress is a den of snakes.

    The state is not a problem. The legislature may be a problem, but the people simply will not obey. Oregon has a tradition of resistance. Hell, half the homeschoolers are noncompliant. I sure was. Laws don't matter when people disobey. The legislature only destroys its own credibility when they push beyond what the people are willing to put up with from them.
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Was going to say what Hawaiian said. 50-state reciprocity.
     
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  16. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    It's impossible with states like ca,nj,ny and a few others
    The permits like Utah,Florida and now Idaho,puts out,(NRA "8" full hours class with shooting,well that's our class at least) is the closest we can hope for.
    Whatever the strictest state requirements are will get the most reciprocity .
    You will never get reciprocity from the states I mentioned. They don't hardly give their residents permits.
    Heck NY you have to have a permit to buy each gun you want. And your permit is only good for a certain gun. Not just what you get a fancy to carry today.
    I have never verified it but I would guess you would need some serious bonding to get a ccp in SoCal
     
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    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I would prefer to be able to carry anywhere in the US without a permit required. That's not going to happen. And ignoring the individual state laws is no bueno - some folks have been nailed in NY, for example, just passing through the airport on the way to somewhere else when it was found they forgot they had a gun with them. NY state goes hard and fast against folks found with concealed (or any) weapons. Non compliance with states like that will get you in jail fast.
     
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    wired Yakima Well-Known Member

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    I certainly dont want to have to take a class to bring Washington's standards up to the rest of the country. We dont need any stinking classes.
     
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  19. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Maybe not but if you get a permit from a state that requires a 8 hour class with shooting,then most other semi free states will honor your permit.
    WA only require a heart beat and no felonies.
    Some states want a tinie bit more
     
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  20. OutlawHoss

    OutlawHoss Klamath-Siskyou Well-Known Member

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    There's already a handful of National Reciprocity Bills in congress, and one pair (Senate, House) that almost have enough co sponsors to easily pass.
    Gun Owners of America: National Reciprocity Bill Has More Than 80 Co-Sponsors (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/09/gun-owners-of-america-national-reciprocity-bill-80-co-sponsors/)
    This bill doesn't require constitutional carry states to make a special permits just to be recognized in other states, i.e. constitutional carry states would be recognized just like any other state's ccw permits. This also doesn't involve a federal temporary 'bridge' permit or their involvement otherwise; Congress has been building up to getting this passed as it's the best option for national reciprocity.

    Seriously, if you don't get Gun Owners of America free alerts, you're missing out on one the easiest ways to stay up to date on some issues as well as practically plug n' play emails ready to send to your representatives.
     
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