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FrancevUS_zps8200cc17.jpg Good one!
 
I don't believe all muslims are bad.
I do however believe the koran teaches hate and violence against non-believers.
But just like the bible it's about your beliefs and how you interpret it.

There are christians that believe in violence against jews, blacks, etc
The KKK and other white supremists groups claim to be good God fearing folks.

It is a fine line, it's ignorant to believe all muslims are violent and wish to kill "infidels".
But I do think the koran is a book that teaches hate of other religions.
 
I don't believe all muslims are bad.
I do however believe the koran teaches hate and violence against non-believers.
But just like the bible it's about your beliefs and how you interpret it.

There are christians that believe in violence against jews, blacks, etc
The KKK and other white supremists groups claim to be good God fearing folks.

It is a fine line, it's ignorant to believe all muslims are violent and wish to kill "infidels".
But I do think the koran is a book that teaches hate of other religions.

The difference between old testament and new is night and day and nothing in todays world comes close to the evil still preached in the Koran !
That is being taught to billion people. The white supremacists are about .o00o1 % or some absolutely miniscule number, if that. One hell of a huge difference, even if you could compare. They don't fly planes into building with 3ooo people and blow up
people in the tens and hundreds and into thousands like in Syria and in Africa, like Islamics do.
Not even to the level of apples and oranges comparison. .
 
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They are desperate and their fanatism teaches suicide attacks in te name of god. A lot of the ridiculous violence they do is not handed down by the religion but by the fanatics that wish to gain power and glory.

I'm sure before the 60s most black people would say all whiteys were evil and wanted to kill them.
Couldn't be further from the truth.

Is violent radicalization growing?
Yes? And like the gangs of today (drug cartels, street gangs) they have to make a name for themselves and do acts of violence bigger and causing more causulties than ever before. Look at mass shooting or school shootings. Each one has dreams of a more terror and bigger body count.
 
They are desperate and their fanatism teaches suicide attacks in te name of god. A lot of the ridiculous violence they do is not handed down by the religion but by the fanatics that wish to gain power and glory.
I'm sure before the 60s most black people would say all whiteys were evil and wanted to kill them.
Couldn't be further from the truth.
Is violent radicalization growing?
Yes? And like the gangs of today (drug cartels, street gangs) they have to make a name for themselves and do acts of violence bigger and causing more causulties than ever before. Look at mass shooting or school shootings. Each one has dreams of a more terror and bigger body count.

If you believe that you have been the victim of al-Taqiyya:
They lie here as sleepers to attack from within when they feel it is right and will all do so in the end war.
Don't be fooled and gullible.
Only our politicians are that dumb.



http://www.muslimfact.com/bm/terror-in-the-name-of-islam/islam-permits-lying-to-deceive-unbelievers-and-bri.shtml

Islam Permits Lying to Deceive Unbelievers and Bring World Domination!
By Don Boys, Ph.D.
Published Nov 17, 2004
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al-Taqiyya:
deception; the islamic word for concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies.

It is impossible to understand Islam and Muslims by listening to their protestations against terror and their proclamations of patriotism for America. Usually, it is wise and fair to give people the benefit of the doubt but when it comes to national safety and the future of America, we had better look twice, even thrice at Muslim patriotism. Why? Because Islam permits lying! It is called "Al-taqiyya." One Muslim said that Al-taqiyya means dissimulation then he expanded it to diplomacy but he should have gone further to deception. Now some Muslims who do not follow the Koran are as faithful Americans as any of us, but the problem is, we cannot know.

Muslims lie not because they are liars by nature but by choice. Systematic lying as a religious policy is deadly, and if our politicians do not understand this, thousands could die.
It seems our President and his advisors are clueless as to the desires, doctrines, and distinctives of Islam. While I feel a little audacious in giving advice to national leaders, it is necessary since no one else is doing it. Muslims lie not because they are liars by nature but by choice. Systematic lying as a religious policy is deadly, and if our politicians do not understand this, thousands could die.

Muslims lie when it is in their interest to do so and "Allah" will not hold them accountable for lying when it is beneficial to the cause of Islam. They can lie without any guilt or fear of accountability or retribution. A lie in the defense of Islam is approved even applauded in their "holy" books.

Muslims are permitted to lie: (1) to save their lives, (2) to reconcile a husband and wife, (3) to persuade a woman into a bedroom and (4) to facilitate one on his journey. Muslims are even permitted to disavow Islam and Mohammed if it is not a genuine heart-felt rejection. Muslims will tell you that concealment of a truth is not an abandonment of that truth if it benefits Islam.
Mohammed gave permission for a follower to lie in order to kill a Jewish poet who had
offended Mohammed.
I could provide many examples of permissible lying from the Koran and Hadith and will do so when my critics accuse me of hatred and bigotry because of this column. My motives are not important but the truth is. However, many unprincipled people do not consider truth important. It is political correctness that sits on the throne to be worshiped.

Muslims may appear very sincere; in fact, they are sincere, when they lie for their own protection or in the cause of Islam. They have permission to lie. Yes, Christians have also lied but never are they given permission to lie. However, a Muslim has no guilt since the Koran and Hadith permit his deception.

Muslims have no hope for eternal salvation without their good works, so they must keep working to advance Islam. If a few lies will accomplish that goal, then lying is not bad but good. If they can get good publicity for Islam by lying, then lying is acceptable, even desirable.
They will lie to make Islam more attractive to potential converts as they speak of "no compulsion in religion" while all of them know that verse was abrogated by later verses. They will quote verses that speak of tolerance and kindness knowing that those verses were written when Mohammed was desirous of "tolerance and kindness," but when he climbed into the catbird seat, everything changed and he became a terrorist.

Muslims have no hope for eternal salvation without their good works, so they must keep working to advance Islam. If a few lies will accomplish that goal, then lying is not bad but good. If they can get good publicity for Islam by lying, then lying is acceptable, even desirable. The Muslim is earning his way to heaven by lying to a non-Muslim.

Unlike Christians who are saved once for all by the grace of God through faith in Christ's propitiatory death, no Muslim knows for sure if his works are good enough for Heaven. The only Muslim who knows for sure that his eternal destiny is secure and he will drop into a delightful garden filled with 72 virgins on soft green cushions is the one who dies while "taking out" unbelievers in Islam.

Most Muslims will not have the "opportunity" to become a martyr in this war between Islam and the rest of the world and make no mistake every true Muslim must be involved in making America (or the nation where he lives) a Muslim nation. Since Muslims are limited in their ability to die for the cause, they can help the cause by supporting terrorists with money, succor, and cover. Sure, they are aiding terror against the U.S. but since they believe they are doing Allah's will, then any deception is acceptable.

How should this affect America's war on terror? Officials must look closely at every Muslim chaplain in the military and in our prisons; also look at those involved in the CIA, FBI, and other sensitive areas; look at all Arabic translators, military or civilian; look at all Muslim employees at the Pentagon, White House, atomic power plants, and in Congress; look at all civilian Muslim pilots; look at Muslim clerics in all U.S. mosques. In other words, get serious about this war before our cities are rubble.

Our President must stop playing the game of "Let's Stop the Terrorists" and get serious by going to the heart of the matter. This war on terror is a religious matter and could become a Hundred Years' War. To resurrect an old slogan: You can trust the Muslims to be Muslims. They are lying their way to world domination!

Watch al-Taqiyya in action as it pours from the lips of Altaf Ali, Executive Director of C.A.I.R. in Florida as he gives sidewalk interviews next to a demonstration against C.A.I.R. sponsored Islamic Propaganda on appearing in ads placed on county buses.


Another good example of al Taqiyya (al Taqiya)



A Muslim woman deceived a Christian school by not wearing a Burqa to the job interview, but showed up to work wearing one.

 
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I guess most people here forgot a few years ago when a Palestinian Muslim man went to a school in France and shot point blank the face of a little girl, murdering her as well as some other children and then killing the Rabbi who shielded the body of the children as he was shot to death in a bold attempt to save their life by sacrificing his own. This happened in Toulouse, France.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse_and_Montauban_shootings

Yeah, France is really a lost cause. France is one of the most Pro-Islam countries in Europe. They want to make friends with these people, give them unrestricted immigration, as well as free housing, food and many don't even have to work. The open immigration and social services combined with the ultra-liberalism of countries like France make it a cesspool and breeding ground for Islamic extremists.


Anyway, news articles like a mass shooting by Islamic extremists in Europe use to knock me off my chair. Now, I am just yawning.. All I can say is, "Oh yeah, I told you so!"

I agree with the above poster, that not all Muslims are bad people. Sadly, it's the "good" Muslims who are shielding the actions of the bad with their "innocence".

I think since much terrorism is being promoted by fanatical clerics that all mosques that promote any sort of violence or fanaticism should be shut down and the members labelled as terrorists. The same can be said of KKK/Neo-Nazi and other extremist groups. The only difference is that most fanatical Islamists are not labelled as "fanatical groups", but as peaceful people with a few bad apples. When, in fact, many of the mosques and local Islamic organizations have ties to terrorist organizations and have been found to be funding the very terrorists who commit these massacres. We need some more accountability.

My personal feeling is there are many good Muslim people, but the core of the Islamic religion is brutal and violent. I wish the Quran could be re-written or that more Muslims can follow a modified and more peaceful version of Islam like Sufis have or like the Kurdish people.

Anyway, things are going to get even much worse before they get even slightly better.
 
I guess most people here forgot a few years ago when a Palestinian Muslim man went to a school in France and shot point blank the face of a little girl, murdering her as well as some other children and then killing the Rabbi who shielded the body of the children as he was shot to death in a bold attempt to save their life by sacrificing his own. This happened in Toulouse, France.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulouse_and_Montauban_shootings

Yeah, France is really a lost cause. France is one of the most Pro-Islam countries in Europe. They want to make friends with these people, give them unrestricted immigration, as well as free housing, food and many don't even have to work. The open immigration and social services combined with the ultra-liberalism of countries like France make it a cesspool and breeding ground for Islamic extremists.


Anyway, news articles like a mass shooting by Islamic extremists in Europe use to knock me off my chair. Now, I am just yawning.. All I can say is, "Oh yeah, I told you so!"

I agree with the above poster, that not all Muslims are bad people. Sadly, it's the "good" Muslims who are shielding the actions of the bad with their "innocence".

I think since much terrorism is being promoted by fanatical clerics that all mosques that promote any sort of violence or fanaticism should be shut down and the members labelled as terrorists. The same can be said of KKK/Neo-Nazi and other extremist groups. The only difference is that most fanatical Islamists are not labelled as "fanatical groups", but as peaceful people with a few bad apples. When, in fact, many of the mosques and local Islamic organizations have ties to terrorist organizations and have been found to be funding the very terrorists who commit these massacres. We need some more accountability.

My personal feeling is there are many good Muslim people, but the core of the Islamic religion is brutal and violent. I wish the Quran could be re-written or that more Muslims can follow a modified and more peaceful version of Islam like Sufis have or like the Kurdish people.

Anyway, things are going to get even much worse before they get even slightly better.


Yes they will get much worse and one day the world will wake up, but will they do so in time ???
Millions will die before that happens sad to say. Then there will finally be an explosive push back against Islam that should have happened years ago.
It is coming !

Every man woman and child will be engaged in war if they wish to survive as free souls.
I just don't think people even see the immensity of all of this.
Most don't have a clue.
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"Socialism brought it here and let it grow out of control so it may come that fascism is the only answer."

Common error, mixing politics with economics.

Fascism like Communism isn't a political system, they're economic systems...the economic systems of socialism and socialist dictatorship. Both require Iron Fisted control of citizens by government with Fascism adding a "buffer" of state owned/administered Corporations. For example, China is a large Socialist state now operating under the Fascist economic model since it "modernized"... basically it's Nazi Germany with rice and eggrolls instead of potatoes and bratwurst.
Using the correct terminology kinda puts a new face on who we're borrowing our future from...don't it?

As with Communism, under Fascism, every citizen was regarded as an employee and tenant of the totalitarian, party-dominated state. Consequently, it was the State's prerogative to use force, or the threat of it, to suppress even peaceful opposition.

Fascism is very attractive to Muslim Theocracies and Dictatorships and was firmly embraced by them when it was introduced by the Nazis in the thirties. Saddam Hussein's own Baath Party was the Iraqi equivalent of the Nazi Party.

If a formal architect of fascism can be identified, it is Benito Mussolini (dictator). A onetime Marxist editor, he believed "The citizen in the Fascist State is no longer a selfish individual who has the anti-social right of rebelling against any law of the Collectivity. The Fascist State puts men and their possibilities into productive work and interprets for them the duties they have to fulfill."
Similarly, Adolf Hitler, whose National Socialist (Nazi) Party adapted fascism to Germany beginning in 1933, said, "The state should retain supervision and each property owner should consider himself appointed by the state. It is his duty not to use his property against the interests of others among his own people. This is the crucial matter. The Third Reich will always retain its right to control the owners of property."

"A Fascist economy can be very efficient when it lubricates it's gears with blood"
 
"Socialism brought it here and let it grow out of control so it may come that fascism is the only answer."

Common error, mixing politics with economics.

Fascism like Communism isn't a political system, they're economic systems...the economic systems of socialism and socialist dictatorship. Both require Iron Fisted control of citizens by government with Fascism adding a "buffer" of state owned/administered Corporations. For example, China is a large Socialist state now operating under the Fascist economic model since it "modernized"... basically it's Nazi Germany with rice and eggrolls instead of potatoes and bratwurst.
Using the correct terminology kinda puts a new face on who we're borrowing our future from...don't it?

As with Communism, under Fascism, every citizen was regarded as an employee and tenant of the totalitarian, party-dominated state. Consequently, it was the State's prerogative to use force, or the threat of it, to suppress even peaceful opposition.

Fascism is very attractive to Muslim Theocracies and Dictatorships and was firmly embraced by them when it was introduced by the Nazis in the thirties. Saddam Hussein's own Baath Party was the Iraqi equivalent of the Nazi Party.

If a formal architect of fascism can be identified, it is Benito Mussolini (dictator). A onetime Marxist editor, he believed "The citizen in the Fascist State is no longer a selfish individual who has the anti-social right of rebelling against any law of the Collectivity. The Fascist State puts men and their possibilities into productive work and interprets for them the duties they have to fulfill."
Similarly, Adolf Hitler, whose National Socialist (Nazi) Party adapted fascism to Germany beginning in 1933, said, "The state should retain supervision and each property owner should consider himself appointed by the state. It is his duty not to use his property against the interests of others among his own people. This is the crucial matter. The Third Reich will always retain its right to control the owners of property."

"A Fascist economy can be very efficient when it lubricates it's gears with blood"

"You call it corn, we call it maize":D It really doesn't matter what you call the effort to stop Islamic terrorism but it must be stopped. We have no freedom living under their terror.
 
Yeah, France is really a lost cause. France is one of the most Pro-Islam countries in Europe. They want to make friends with these people, give them unrestricted immigration, as well as free housing, food and many don't even have to work. The open immigration and social services combined with the ultra-liberalism of countries like France make it a cesspool and breeding ground for Islamic extremists.

France has been for quite some time now. Remember the 1986 United States bombing of Libya with F-111 based in Britain?

The United States was denied overflight rights by France, Spain, and Italy as well as the use of European continental bases, forcing the Air Force portion of the operation to be flown around France and Spain, over Portugal and through the Straits of Gibraltar, adding 1,300 miles (2,100 km) each way and requiring multiple aerial refuelings. The French refusal alone added 2,800 km and was imposed despite the fact that France had itself been the target of terrorism directed by the Gaddafi government in Libya.
 
Must watch. This in my opinion sums up the scope of the threat the world faces from a "minority" of muslims.


That is probably the single most well done video of this decade.
She is a very articulate and intelligent commentator.
She gets it ! The rest of the world needs to follow suit.
 
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They do that every time someone throws the term Fascist around without knowing what it means... same thing whenever someone on the left calls a conservative a Nazi.

Yep....The Nazi's were for all intent and purpose, democrats, not conservatives. They fit in with the liberal control mindset. People don't get it.
 
They do that every time someone throws the term Fascist around without knowing what it means... same thing whenever someone on the left calls a conservative a Nazi.

I know exactly what Fascism means, how it operates, and how it disguises itself.I had family who died in the Holocaust, otheres who fought in the resistance in Belgium and Italy, my Dad served out the entire war. Spent my life battling its manifestations here in the USA, recognize it clearly in some of this thread's posts. One of the big reasons that I own guns.
 
Obama being voted in twice say much about the mindless gullibility of non discerning voters. Yes the voters are stupid. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fascism

History revisionists try to paint Fascism as right wing politics, but all of Fascism's defining principles are on the left:
  • Large government that micromanages it's citizens
  • No restrictions on the government's ability to infringe on the rights of citizens, if they have any to begin with.
  • Censorship of any speech critical of the government
  • The government controls the economy to the point of telling companies what and how much they can produce
 

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