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When Should You Shoot a Cop

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by billdeserthills, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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  2. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    Never never never ever, no good thing will come of it.
     
  3. MarkAd

    MarkAd Port Orchard Well-Known Member

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    i can't even say what is going through my heart
     
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  4. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    Um, ahhh... Oh, umm. Er um. Ummmmm.

    No.

    Keith
     
  5. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps Lady Karma's Hat trick will put you in a cell with Larken Rose and Tre Arrow guarded by the very people your profess an open contempt for.
     
  6. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    Unless you're suicidal. Then the police will take care of your living problem.
     
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  7. chariot13

    chariot13 Near Eugene/Springfield Well-Known Member

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    The video is posted in another thread. When it comes to the value of your life and those you love, it shouldn't matter who you're having to shoot to protect it. Makes no difference when whoever you're having to shoot see's a greater value in killing you so they can sell your property to get a drug fix, or killing you over some law that a government holds more dear than your life or your loved ones live's. The greater good is you & your family. The socialistic, communistic & fascist governments that call themselves democracy's and republics today, want you to think that a country's (governments) future is more important than your childrens.
     
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  8. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much in this day there is no right to self defense when a badge is involved. I think the saddest part is how many cops would just do whatever they are told if someone above them says, well Joe and Jane Blow are suspected terrorists??? Or would they stand up and so, NO, I won't even if it costs me my job. The world wonders.

    Brutus Out
     
  9. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    On 15 January 2013, amidst political debate about the potential implementation of additional federal gun control laws recommended by a task force chaired by Vice President Joe Biden, Sheriff Tim Mueller of Linn County, Oregon, went public with a letter addressed to Vice President Biden, stating he would not enforce any "unconstitutional orders or regulations" in his jurisdiction.

    Sheriff Jim Hensley of Crook County, Oregon, sent an identical letter to Vice President Biden, as did Sheriff John Bishop of Curry County, Oregon. Sheriff Craig Zanni of Coos County, Oregon, penned a somewhat similar letter, but it was addressed to the citizens of his county rather than Vice President Biden.
     
  10. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    When the eventual economic collapse comes and every major US city's streets are like the LA Riots x10, cops will be no where to be seen (just like then). Those that are brave enough to report for duty driving their regular squad cars will be nothing more than target practice.

    This is what they are preparing for; that is why you are now seeing Sheriff armored tanks, etc.

    I have three cop friends and they have told me that when SHTF their badges will be turned in or thrown into a sock drawer forever.

    The ones who stick with it, well, you have to feel a bit sorry for them in a way. It was the minority bad/thug cops that created all this pent-up anger and need for revenge in so many.

    As for the here and now, shooting a cop is paramount to suicide. Only cops have the right to kill with impunity and that has been proven over and over again. Whether you are a kid, an 83 year old woman, a dog, whatever - bang you're dead; cop is back on the job in a week or less.

    YOU even point a gun in a cop's direction and you are done.
     
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  11. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    Those letters are all well and good but how many no knock, no warrant searches are these county sheriffs still doing? If the Feds show up with lots of weapons they will probably just back away and let the feds do their thing. We have no real advocate against a police state.

    Brutus Out
     
  12. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    Point taken, we agree more than I am letting on here. We certainly have no defense against an ever increasing police state. It doesn't leave me pining for the collapse of our society either, a baptism by fire never produces the purity that we think it will. Its longing for paradise lost, when it comes, it will be cold long and hard, and the outcome....It's just another tyranny in it's place to rule over you.
     
  13. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Freedom once lost is never restored. We will be no exception.
     
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    Don H Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Could of, Should of, Would of ... (Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn):
     
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  15. taylor

    taylor Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Our history has shown there are a small minority of bad cops, who are capable of murder. I treat cops like everybody else, maybe better given the bubblegum job they have but I don't for an instant expect them to be 100%.
     
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    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    Ah yes, I'm rereading Gulag Archipelago right now.

    Keith
     
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    evltwn Gold Hill Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Well, you have totally convinced! All that remains is for you gum flapping bubblegummers to publish your phone number so when SHTF I can count on you to protect me! Taylor said it well. They all are doing a job not too many people sign up for. Most do an average job of it, a small percentage are outstanding, and an even smaller percentage belong in prison. Hmmm....sounds like a microcosm of the rest of society. Ya want to change society? Than get off your a$$ in front of your computer, complaining to the rest of the world and do something about it.
     
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    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    great book! We had to read One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich in Jr. High. I liked it so much I went out and bought the Gulag. Powerful book, 40 plus decades ago I thought it could never happen here, now, it is a clear possibility. Only fly in the ointment for the autocrats is the 2A.
    Brutus Out
     
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    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    I think the fear is not so much of the small minority of bad cops now, although it seems to be growing or just a case of more incidents make it in to the news. I think the real concern: IS HOW WILL THE local LEOS ACT WHEN THEY ARE TOLD to confiscate firearms because the president suspend the 2A or because Kerry signed the UN Small Arms Treaty..... how will they react? I think we all pretty much know the federal agents will do as they are told. See, now all those formerly law abiding citizens are not law abiding, they are criminals because they own illegal firearms. Can't happen???
    Boy I sure hope you doubting thomas' are correct. But I am not holding my breath.

    Brutus Out
     
  20. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    Quoting Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn looks like it lends credence to the OP's "Definitive Video". It promotes irrational fear, and incites people who don't think very well for themselves to try dumb things. I'm talking about the guy that decides he is going to "exercise his rights" with an AR15 strapped on his back, while he shops for groceries, and ends up being burdened with a legal battle he cannot win, and a black eye for the entire 2A community. This is a conversation that speaks to a possible outcome in the future, so we are already borrowing trouble by having these kinds of discussions. As a result of these discussions, some folks are going to draw some dangerous lines in their minds, stupid conclusions, half baked notions. A very few will act on them. Another Black eye, more battles, less freedom, more police, self fulfilling prophecy. Cops already worry about getting home alive to their families, It's not like making them more jumpy is going to accomplish anything good, ask Randy Weaver.
     
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