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What's the best 9mm self-defense ammo?

Discussion in 'Education & Training' started by 9mm guy, Apr 26, 2015.

  1. 9mm guy

    9mm guy Tualatin Active Member

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    As a beginner to firearms, I've been asking some basic questions & learning a lot thanks to the many replies. I know this is probably a can of worms and I don't know if this is the right forum to ask this question, but what do you all recommend for the best 9mm self-defense ammo? I carry the Glock 19 Gen4.

    After watching the YouTube Channel of TN9Outdoors and some other random articles, so far my conclusion is the Speer Gold Dot 147 grain. Also the fact that most police use this ammo pretty much clinched it for me. But I know that people swear by & love the Federal HST 147 grain as well. TN9Outdoors & Hickock45 both seem to crown the HST as their favorite and carry it regularly. I also know that the Hornady Critical Duty 124 grain is another highly recommended one.

    Obviously shot placement, training, etc. are much more important than what type of ammo one carries. I realize that the differences between these ammo may be so small that ammo selection probably doesn't really matter. But all things being equal, is there a favorite/recommended ammo that all of you have? Thanks in advance for all your answers.
     
  2. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Gold Dot, Hornady, and IMHO "Ruag JHP"
     
  3. Arleyg

    Arleyg Willamette Valley Member

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    The best defensive ammo is the gray matter between your ears, and the bullets that fly straight and true hitting your intended target.
     
  4. oli700

    oli700 Rogue Valley Well-Known Member

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    Federal HST , Winchester Ranger is excellent
     
  5. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Gold Dot is#1 with me! I have a lot of respect for Hornady products in general too.
     
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  6. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I'll go with the +P+ 115gr Gold Dots going well over 1500fps. For 9mm, they more than anything most approximate the old 125gr .357 magnum round.. and we know the stats/history on that.
     
  7. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Check out this channel https://www.youtube.com/user/BrassFetcher. He is a pro not a you tube hack. He tests ammo for police forces and such.
    All you can do is see which brand does what you want it to do.The gel tests aren't perfect but give you a side by side test of each brand and how it expands and how far penetrates.
    Like Arleyg says the most important thing is your brain. Most ammos will do the job....if YOU do yours.
    No, target ammo isn't as good as most defense ammos,but in a pince,placed right, will stop a threat.
    Now if you look up handgun efficiency,well that's another thread.
    I always pick the ammo with the prettiest box,as long as there is a huge cavity for the "hollow point"
     
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  8. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    The last time I checked, the brassfetcher had very limited tests of 9mm. Kinda odd for a "pro".
     
  9. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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  10. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Hence the Hornady "critical" line. I don't carry 9mm but I believe you are probably correct that the eraser points are better with that caliber
     
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  11. oli700

    oli700 Rogue Valley Well-Known Member

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    9mm 4.7" CZ barrel, left to right
    115gr Hornady Critical Defense 1038fps, 124gr Remington Golden Saber 1052 fps, 124gr Federal HST +p 1156 fps
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    10mm Auto 3" Glock, 180gr Speer Gold Dot 1220 fps, 180gr Hornady XTP 1248 fps

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  12. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    img_1968_zps4a3aee04-jpg.235482.jpg

    That girl on the left is pretty wicked. But where were we? Not that that's a 9.. And that's the reason the 9 is so viable these days. For actual effectiveness on the target.. not because "girls" now carry handguns or capacity or even cost and or gun wear.. their (the FBI) case is essentially actual effectiveness on target per shot. The reason given is that the powers that be, the manufacturers and user (it's so commonly used), more engineering has been laid into the "lowly" 9 projectiles as to make it more than eminently viable.. indeed, they say it's actually tops.
    anyway
     
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  13. oli700

    oli700 Rogue Valley Well-Known Member

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    for sure, no real reason to scoff at a 9 these days for the reasons you mention. I have all kinds of badass handguns but my go to is a CZ 75

    the one on the left just met its match in sheer velocity, too fast for the plated Gold Dot.....probably stay together much better in 40 S&W

    be a good choice for urban carry though, it stopped shorter than even all the 9mm I recovered .....it dumps energy right now !
     
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  14. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I think the 9 is here to stay.. since 1903? Quite viable to put it mildly.
     
  15. oli700

    oli700 Rogue Valley Well-Known Member

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    very mildly, its got to be up there with 22lr for death toll
     
  16. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Was that supposed to be a lol? .40, 45, .357sig. lol
     
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  17. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    What runs thru your gun?
    What can you shoot most accurate?

    In my limited testing, I found in short barreled (PF9 / Shield) that heavier bullets (147gr) worked better.
    In standard sizes, G17, it didn't matter.

    What ever you decide upon, be sure to run enough thru that you are confident with it -
     
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  18. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    In the old days, and even to this day, the 158gr JHP/JSP .357 magnum is pretty much a joke when it comes to deer.. or humans. Zip right through.. but I understand the concept and what. Why then do people reach for that magic ring in the 147 9 and not even in a "magnum" +P+ offering? kinda odd
     
  19. BlindedByScience

    BlindedByScience Vancouver WA Well-Known Member

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  20. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    The "ringer" for "small game" (lol) was/is the 125gr .357 magnum and not the 158.
     
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