What's everyone buying before some of this ridiculous legislation?

[American123]

Well, if you have a way of acquiring a semi-automatic rifle after 7/1 without having to prove you've taken some bullbubblegum training class and got local LEO sign off, I'm all for it.

Unfortunately it's the gun shops that will enforce these laws, because you can be damned sure that the king county and snohomish country law enforcement will shut down the stores that don't comply.

Agreed. Not saying not to buy stuff. Go hog wild. I was referring to confiscation. Lowers are cheap right now. Palmetto had their STR stock lower for 159.99

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

Are those Palmetto complete lowers any good?

 

[American123]

Are those Palmetto complete lowers any good?

Short answer: yes in my opinion.

But to provide a better explanation, what makes them good/not good?

One thing that must be understood is there are only a handful of forgers that actually make the receivers and then put a roll mark on them for each subsequent company that sells them with their logo.

 

[Howard1955]

I'm tempted to go on a buying spree, using my credit cards. But so far, I've resisted that urge.

Instead, I'm gradually getting all the extras I think we'll want on our rifles. Scopes are on, and a muzzle brake is next on the list. Only a few more items, and I'll be ready to buy another gun.

Seriously thinking of getting a black-powder rifle. Looks like a blast.

 

[GWS]

Seriously thinking of getting a black-powder rifle. Looks like a blast.

They are a blast..
You'll put out enough smoke to make a thousand tree huggers cry.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Seriously thinking of getting a black-powder rifle. Looks like a blast.

Be careful or you could end up like this guy...

 

[Cell Block 726]

Land not located in OR/WA is the only major one on my list.

Precisely why I bought some dirt in Montana...and moved there!!

 

[Goosebrown]

Magazines I guess. Need 3 for my vp9. Some AR magazines just in case. Otherwise not much.

Everything else I might need isn't covered so not panicking.

Might buy bullets and primers.

 

[Goosebrown]

Be careful or you could end up like this guy...
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Is "that guy" you?

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Is "that guy" you?

Yes indeed it is...

 

[Goosebrown]

I like my friend Andy but he has... well... a small black powder problem...

LOL.

You have such beautiful rifles...

 

[Andy54Hawken]

I like my friend Andy but he has... well... a small black powder problem...

LOL.

You have such beautiful rifles...

Thank you ....
Hello , My name is Andy...
And I love the smell of blackpowder in the morning...
Andy

 

[11Charlie]

Thank you ....
Hello , My name is Andy...
And I love the smell of blackpowder in the morning...
Andy

I like the smell of coffee, gun powder and deer pepperoni!!

 

[DuneHopper]

Id like to get into black powder, but laws wouldn't effect that, unless powder ends up needing a permit.
But I saw this crap coming a couple years ago, so long prepared for most laws they could throw at me.
Like to find another 10/22 I have several Marlins, but sold my 10/22 4 years ago, kinda regret it after I
dumped about 700 into it. Stupid, stupid,

 

[Goosebrown]

I like the smell of coffee, gun powder and deer pepperoni!!

Bacon and gunpowder IN MY coffee.

 

[titsonritz]

Short answer: yes in my opinion.

But to provide a better explanation, what makes them good/not good?

One thing that must be understood is there are only a handful of forgers that actually make the receivers and then put a roll mark on them for each subsequent company that sells them with their logo.

The forgers do not put on the roll marks and it is want happens (or doesn't happen) after the chunk of aluminum leaves the forger is what makes a difference.

Also, the small parts used them are often those rejected by Colt's, BCM's, etc QC process.

 

[American123]

The forgers do not put on the roll marks and it is want happens (or doesn't happen) after the chunk of aluminum leaves the forger is what makes a difference.

Also, the small parts used them are often those rejected by Colt's, BCM's, etc QC process.

That's interesting. I have no desire or intention to get into a "one brand is better than another brand debate," however, it would be interesting to have any of the previously mentioned companies have their products measured in some way as to their 'quality' and longevity compared to others.

 

[titsonritz]

Yes indeed it is...
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What is that you have around your neck in the 1st and 3rd photo?

 

[Dwesson]

The forgers do not put on the roll marks and it is want happens (or doesn't happen) after the chunk of aluminum leaves the forger is what makes a difference.

Also, the small parts used them are often those rejected by Colt's, BCM's, etc QC process.

Which small parts are we talking about here? Springs and detents?

As long as the lower is "in spec" the rest is kind of irrelevant, whether it costs $40 or $200.

Anderson Arms lower is typically ~$40
Palmetto State lower is typically ~$50-60
Aero Precision lower is typically ~$70-80
Noveske is ~$170

There are literally tens of thousands of Anderson/PSA/Aero lowers out there that run just fine. Buy a decent Fire Control Group/Trigger and a CMMG parts kit and the lower is kind of irrelevant in my opinion.

Some firearms enthusiasts treat roll marks on their lowers like some women treat logos on their purses.

Now if Anderson or PSA are out of spec lowers, that's a different story..

I am probably going to pick up another 3-4 aeros

 

[titsonritz]

Which small parts are we talking about here? Springs and detents?

As long as the lower is "in spec" the rest is kind of irrelevant, whether it costs $40 or $200.

Anderson Arms lower is typically ~$40
Palmetto State lower is typically ~$50-60
Aero Precision lower is typically ~$70-80
Noveske is ~$170

There are literally tens of thousands of Anderson/PSA/Aero lowers out there that run just fine. Buy a decent Fire Control Group/Trigger and a CMMG parts kit and the lower is kind of irrelevant in my opinion.

Some firearms enthusiasts treat roll marks on their lowers like some women treat logos on their purses.

Now if Anderson or PSA are out of spec lowers, that's a different story..

I am probably going to pick up another 3-4 aeros

Pretty everything in LPK: FCG, springs, detents, takedown and pivot pins, bolt release, etc.
I'm not saying everything they put out is crap, I'm saying there is a higher probability they are crap and from what I've seen there plenty out there that do not run fine.

There would not be a market for this sort of thing if the issue didn't exist...
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