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Whats a Better SHTF gun Ar-10 or Ar -15

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by manakiah, Aug 9, 2010.

  1. manakiah

    manakiah Issaquah Wa Member

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    I currently have a Ar-15 for one of my main SHTF rifles. I like the fact that the ammo is light aswell as the gun. I have been thinking of selling it and getting an Ar-10 {308}. I like the idea of the distance these guns have aswell as the knock down power. Ar-10s are heavier and the ammo is aswell. There are pros and cons to each one. Any suggestions or insight. Thanks Jason
     
  2. SICARIO

    SICARIO Oregon City Active Member

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    .308 is my choice. My DPMS AP4 is a 10lbs vs. my 7lb AR. 20rds of 308 weigh the same as 30rds of .223 (roughly).

    It's a toss up for the weight vs. power, but if you can handle the weight and recoil of a .308, that's what I'd go with. You'd carry fewer rounds, but you may need fewer since the .308 has more kinetic energy.
     
  3. cyborg

    cyborg Oregon City Active Member

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    I have an AR-15.... long barrel not the stubby carbine. It is good but for close work I am into my AK in 7.62 X 39 and for longer range stuff my real preference is my FN-FAL or Galil ARM in .308. You can blow chunks off of car engines. A car killer! Nice!!
     
  4. chemist

    chemist Beaverton OR Well-Known Member

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    Ferfal says .308 all the way, but he's a "bug-in" guy, where weight is irrelevant.
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    The biggest difference IMO isn't the range, it's the way .308 turns cover into concealment.
     
  5. timbernet

    timbernet Boring, Oregon Member

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    Easy answer....




    .... get both ;)
     
  6. Lord Kimbote

    Lord Kimbote Ellensburg Member

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    Another factor to consider is how common ammunition for each will be in your area. There are many rifles chambered in .308 in the States, but because of the popularity of the AR-15, I would imagine that 5.56 is more common in the U.S., and of course cheaper. That goes for spare parts as well. I would rather have to look for a replacement AR-15 bolt than an AR-10 bolt from private parties.
     
  7. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Owning an AR10 and several AR15s I would have to ask if you plan to be on the move or not. If I was leading the nomadic life I would go AR15 and carry the weight in ammo, if I was to have a base camp and do scouting from there and always back to base camp I could deal with the added heft of the AR10.
     
  8. tonyspdx

    tonyspdx Gresham, OR Member

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    Agree 100%:thumbup:
     
  9. Mac_Fan

    Mac_Fan Beaverton Active Member

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    AR-15, without question. Light in weight, popular and found everywhere which means parts are also. In addition it's recoil is easily enough handled by my wife.
     
  10. nitestocker

    nitestocker woodland washington Well-Known Member

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    i have a 3006 for long stuff and the ar-15 for anything with in 300 m so far just rodents:D
     
  11. Bruce

    Bruce Jefferson County, Wa Member

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    I would choose the AR-15 because where I live long range is not an issue and I would be more concerned about weight should I find myself on foot.
     
  12. Douglas

    Douglas Oregon Active Member

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    Really SHTF, SKS and spend the rest on ammo and supplies.
     
  13. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    bump
     
  14. gearhead

    gearhead NC Active Member

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    neither - FAL. It ain't called the right arm of the free world for nothin. you get .308, and a weapon which was designed for the cartridge, unlike the AR-10. Plus, spare parts are plentiful and cheap. Just my 2 cents.
     
  15. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Please explain how the AR10 was not designed for the .308
     
  16. Benny503

    Benny503 Grants Pass Well-Known Member

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    If SHTF sistuation then you will need to hunt small animals for food. 308 doesn't leave much meat in a rabbit size of animals :)
     
  17. gearhead

    gearhead NC Active Member

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    Whoops, I failed to clarify. What I meant to say is that Stoner didn't design the system with a large caliber in mind.
     
  18. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The original design was .308. (in 1954). It was scaled down to 5.56 when the U.S. and all other NATO countries adopted 5.56 as the standard caliber.
     
  19. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Thank you! Exactly, Stoner designed the AR10 .308 first in 1954-55 and when the military wanted a rifle to shoot 5.56 he scaled it down to the AR15 in 1957. So indeed the AR10 was designed for .308 from the start. :thumbup:

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  20. gearhead

    gearhead NC Active Member

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    looks like I put my foot in my mouth.