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What will happen to gun rights if Romney is elected ?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by fd15k, Oct 8, 2012.

  1. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    We have a specialized thread on Obama, let's now talk about his counter part. What do you guys expect Romney to do about 2A ?
     
  2. rur862

    rur862 Seattle Active Member

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    I would expect the slow decline of the 2a if Romney was elected President.
    We already know that he does not support repeal the restrictions of 2A rights currently in place.
    It's difficult to imagine a coward like him vetoing any gun control bill that came to his desk.

    When we imagine what a President Romney would do to support the 2nd Amendment, we should look at how much he values the entire Constitution, and he doesn't seem to acknowledge its existence.
    Especially those pesky enumerated powers (Sec. 1 Art. 8) and that confounded 10th Amendment.
     
  3. Botte Hork

    Botte Hork Camas WA Well-Known Member

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    Well, since dems see him as the anti-chri... wait, that's probably a wrong expression, the complete evil opposite of the incumbent candidate, we can only hope for a rollback of amendment 777 to the 1986 firearm owners protection act, the 1938 firearms act with the tax stamp (good thing for us that's not inflation corrected) and the firearm limitation and for the constitutionally strict interpreters of course the 1968 gun control act and the associated 1993 brady handgun violence act. Plus we can all dream of federal concealed carry, although that's for the constitutionally strict people perhaps too much of an invasion of state responsibilities by the federal government. Reciprocity could be a good second choice.

    Realistically, little. In the grand scheme of things, there are bigger fish to be fried. I don't expect a big movement coming up to push for any federal relaxation of laws, and if Romney has an MA-reflex (AWB), there are enough of his party to whistle him back, let alone his running mate.

    Yes, 2A is important on this forum, but in national politics it's just not something that dominates.
     
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  4. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot Clack Co. OR Well-Known Member

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    Fair question.

    If Romney enacts anti 2A laws he will anger his supporters and lose his base of power.

    If Pres Obama does the same his base would get all happy, the press, the statists and the educators would love him even more.
     
  5. gehrheart

    gehrheart fidalgo island Well-Known Member

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    wait... There is a difference between obomeny?

    I Do not trust ether one to to protect any part of the Constitution.
    One has voiced for gun control
    One has voted for gun control
    One is with a party that has a priority for more gun control
    another just bought the NRA support for votes... But has never backed it before.
    Both agree with NDAA
    both agree on SIPPA, PIPPA ect..
    Both don't seem to understand the "REPUBLIC for which it stands" part of America.
    and really, I think if gun control comes across either desk they will ink it.

    I Fear them both..

    That all said... I fear Romney less...
     
  6. Solomon

    Solomon Vancouver Active Member

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    Which one?

    [video=youtube;wgZ6AuHnmk0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgZ6AuHnmk0[/video]
     
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  7. gehrheart

    gehrheart fidalgo island Well-Known Member

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  8. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    Nothing. I don't think Romney spends any time thinking about this issue. Only time it shows up on his radar is when some campain coordinator brings it up as a issue that many on the right care about. So he goes and does his political song and dance and then forgets about it.
     
  9. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Neither can afford to advance an anti-2nd amendment agenda right now. However, a lame-duck president (2nd term president) would be much more likely to try something than a first term president interested in re-election...
     
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    zers Portland Member

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    With the amount of flip flopping he does who knows?
     
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  11. Scvette

    Scvette Olympia Active Member

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    The main thing is,if obamalamadingdong gets back in,he can stack the Supreme Court,that's worse then anything that could happen.
     
  12. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Steve06 Oregon Active Member

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    Who knows where he stands. He waffles like most politicians.
     
  15. Horses are delicious

    Horses are delicious Willamette Valley Active Member

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    Justices can and do stick around to retire during a favorable Prez's term, so that they can be a bit more reassured that their successors will be of similar mind. When Thurgood Marshall retired due to illness and fatigue, Bush 1 nominated Clarence Thomas. Probably not Marshall's first choice. Reagan got 5 in just over 6 years, not all far conservative leaning- I'm looking at you, Sandra Day O'Connor. It's a longer lasting legacy that just 4 or 8 years in office, but many of us have seen decisions changed, undone or otherwise modified in our lifetimes and have watched justices come and go.
    Romney, Obama, Bush, Clinton...they get the glory or the heat for what WE LET HAPPEN on our watch. It's a democracy. Flawed as it is.
    Romney won't push and pull for anything 2A related unless he's told to.
     
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  16. eldbillbo

    eldbillbo clackamas New world samurai and a redneck none the less Bronze Supporter

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    Well if the liberal democrats really think he will support more gun control they should vote for him because if they are right and he does he will bury the republican party once and for all. If he did enact more gun control as president after getting support from the NRA I know I would never vote republican ever again.

    He won't do anything regarding more gun control and even if he was going to do it he would not do it till his second term even Dems know better than to do that now.
     
  17. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    agree with everything you said except this part. We live in a republic, not a democracy. Never has been a democracy, and the Constitution specifically states that congress will ensure all states are a republic....I know, it's silly, but it's one of those pet peeves I have...

    Article IV, Section. 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.

    Constitution for the United States of America
     
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  18. Horses are delicious

    Horses are delicious Willamette Valley Active Member

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    Sure.
     
  19. ArgyleAdams

    ArgyleAdams Portland, OR Active Member

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    Well, it is a republic. It's also almost a representative democracy (a type of republic). The main thing keeping it from being a true representitive democract is that public opinion isn't the final word, as it is limited by the Constitution (in theory anyway).

    Back on topic: I doubt much will be done on the issue by "either" candidate due to, among other reasons, it being a political nightmare for the entire party. Who of the "two" candidates for president will be more likely to do something anyway? Your guess is as good as mine.

    *Note, I put the words "either" and "two" in quotes because people seem to use those words while forgetting that there is a field of presidential candidates, not just two. One of these other candidates in particular is a strong proponent of the Second Amendment and concealed carry (strangely enough, the NRA has chosen to insult this candidate rather than support him). If this is a top issue for you, there's no need to take a gamble on "either" of the unknowns.
     
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  20. timac

    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

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    If Romney were elected, he wouldn't touch gun rights legislation during his first term. Now on his second he would attack gun rights with a vengeance, Obama will do the same.
     
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