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What Truck to buy

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by mrblond, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. mrblond

    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    An American company like GM that's made in China, or a Japanese company like Toyota that's made in America?

    I am having a hard time deciding on a Truck. It seems that the American brands are not really American anymore like GM and the Japanese Trucks are really built here by American workers. Man, talk about cornfusing to a simple guy like myself.
     
  2. simon99

    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    For me it comes down to what are you using your truck for? Work, pleasure, hauling, cruising around, towing?

    Answers to those things narrows the field a lot.
     
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  3. mrblond

    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    4) all of the above

    I was always looking at a Ford F150 and it looks to be a good, American made truck.
     
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  4. simon99

    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The new F150's are a nice truck. My friend bought one with the supercabs with 4 real doors, nice and roomy, 4 wheel drive, comfortable ride, tows nice, lots of power and it has that "eco-boost" ? I think that's what its called....decent gas mileage.
     
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  5. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    After the Obama screw job I would never buy anything from Government Motors.
    With me it would likely be a Ford......... but I don't ever buy new vehicle, I let someone else take the hit on the initial depreciation.
     
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  6. clambo

    clambo Vancouver, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    Too bad International doesnt still exist or make pickups. They were gas sucking brutes that took real men to drive but they were as American as it gets.
     
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  7. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    Find a cherry older PU, one that has been restored, hopefully w/ a diesel motor
     
  8. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    International is alive and well, in fact they are the largest heavy duty truck and engine manufacturer in the US. There light line however hasn't been produced since 75 (pickups and Travelalls) and 1980 (Scouts). If you've got enough cash you can get an MTX, which is a medium duty picky type truck.

    FWIW, I have two friends who have brand new F150's and they are great trucks and both built in America.
     
  9. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    If ya want to buy a truck, buy a FORD, if ya want to buy a car, buy a Chevy truck... just sayin...

    All kidding aside, it pains me to say that the American manufacturers are suckin hind tit because the warranties suck. The diesels (1 tons) are American made but are still lacking on the customer side of good deals. I do not doubt that IF the Asian companies wanted the diesel truck market they would send the rest of American car manufactures to the wayside...
     
  10. simon99

    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I will add that my 1 ton Dodge Cummins Turbo Diesel is pretty sweet though.....
     
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  11. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    I have a 2001 Ford F-350 with the 7.3L diesel engine. Love it. It has a slight oil leak but otherwise the thing just goes, wifey regularly tows horses, I use it around the property, blah blah blah.

    Ford started screwing with the diesel engines between about 2004 and say 2009, such that I'd do research before buying a used truck with a diesel engine in those approximate years.

    Peter
     
  12. notazombie

    notazombie Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    I think I'd steer clear of the Eco Boost -- at least for now. A force-fed small displacement engine in a truck seems like a recipe for disaster to me. Maybe I'm wrong but I predict that most won't last to 120K miles without extremely rigorous maintenance. I'd give them a couple more years to prove themselves.
    Politics aside, GM's powertrain is solid.
    Dodge puts out a decent product.
    Toyotas are GREAT.
    I don't love Nissans.

    FWIW, I've been pushing wrenches for over 20 years. None of the above are without issues. I've learned that most manufacturers have their strengths and weaknesses.
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Next fall, Chevy Colorados will be available with a diesel. Pretty good looking rigs.
     
  14. lonegunman

    lonegunman Eastern Washington Active Member

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    GM got BILLIONS in welfare to bribe it's unions. They cheated pensions and stock holders out of BILLIONS in the socialist scam that restarted the company. In the end, the taxpayers lost $20 BILLION propping the company up and an additional $10.1 BILLION on the stock it owned in the company. Why buy a welfare truck?????

    Dodge got the same deal as GM. Better yet, they also dropped any dealer who publically supported Obama's opposition. Why buy a welfare truck?

    Ford on the other hand, makes the best truck in the country, the F-150 and they weathered the "great Recession" by doing what good companies do and cutting back when required. They made deals with their unions and suppliers and now that the have recovered their stock is up nearly 100% from it's lows.

    Just saying,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you can use your dollars to support socialists and communists or to support America and a company that respects it's share holders.
     
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  15. clambo

    clambo Vancouver, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    I too would pass on the Ecoboost option. Turbocharging a V6 to 360 hp.......that cant last. At least it never has. It may be acceptable to them if the bearings go belly up at 5 years but not to me. Why? Because sadly we have got to the place where a decent truck costs far more than the average guy can afford. 60k for a pickup? Jesus. For 60 grand it better pump out 360 horses for 30 years and do backflips too. Next bubblegum is technology, if you wanna call it that.....everything is electric and electronic and no one can fix anything. They have 4x4 systems no man understands, all hinging on a computer. I dont know if you even have choices about low range and such. Anyway if one little zero becomes a one somewhere youre walking home in the snow. I like things I understand. Pickups are now completely womanized. Theyve been leaning that way since the first time some yahoo put power brakes in one. For the women. Leather interior? Sheesh. Dont scratch it honey or Ill.....Ill.....make you trade it in for another one.
     
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  16. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    When you are looking at trucks remember this. this goes for the big 3

    First digit in the VIN is where is it made

    1=USA
    2=Canada
    3=Mexico

    So I guess they all are still techinally made in America.
     
  17. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    Ford didn't take a handout from obozo so they are the only ones that I will look at.
     
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    Don H Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Ford Raptor!

    [video=youtube;ZANDpBhZMk4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZANDpBhZMk4[/video]
     
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    BVB PDX Active Member

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    "Ford didn't take a handout from obozo so they are the only ones that I will look at."

    might take good look at the Tundra, they did not take any of the obongo monies either.
     
  20. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    If I'm spending my money, Toyota. Sure do love my Tundra.

    Ford is good but I've had bad luck with the F-Series pick-ups. GM will never see another cent from me.