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Funny you say that as I got in another job rejection email today as I read this lol.What sucks the most about job searching?
All of it.
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Funny you say that as I got in another job rejection email today as I read this lol.What sucks the most about job searching?
All of it.
Hiring and training are expensive,
I'm stuck in this rut of horse s**t with this virus, finding a dignified gig and getting done with school. All I've been getting are rejection emails and hiring freeze emails. What a screw.These days, trying to get rid of an employee can be even more expensive. Hence a high degree of caution and selectivity.
But I think there is the dynamic of ever greater population, fewer jobs due to automation and off-shoring of labor. I remember when computers and automation were fairly new, an oft-heard comment was that they would make our working world easier, workers would have more recreation time. Yes, unpaid time.
I made it to retirement time without any trouble finding work. During my time, we didn't have all the pre-screening. You usually just went in and talked directly to the guy who said yes or no. Actually, yes or "we'll call you." I interview well, nearly always landed a job unless I decided I didn't want it. I've gone to interviews and after hearing the pitch or looking around the operation, turned them down. My son is a manager, usually stays with a job for several years, then wants to break out for whatever reason. He is very intelligent, has an MBA. He tells me stories about the contemporary interview process. Sounds like it sucks.
Best advice I've gotten in regards to getting a job.
Lie. Lie through your teeth.
I kid you not. Multiple higher ups have told me this multiple times.
It hurt the first time, I'm a very honest person.
Ive learned its just a part of business. Once employed, nothing on your cover letter or resume truly matters.
What industry are you in?I'm stuck in this rut of horse s**t with this virus, finding a dignified gig and getting done with school. All I've been getting are rejection emails and hiring freeze emails. What a screw.
I know several people that won their jobs this way. BS's their way in and then figured out how to get the job done. I don't think that would work for every job, nor for every person.
I just can''t do it. And I'm a terrible liar anyway!!!
I wouldnt lie about a welding job. Or something super specific that requires a past like a CEO.I knew one guy a long time ago who did that and was quickly caught out (you don't learn how to weld overnight). Pathological liar. He was put to work sweeping the floor.
Then you hear about CEOs padding their resume and they get caught out.
I'm a trained watchmaker and power generation technician with work also on aircraft arresting systems on the flightline. Haven't worked since August. Tried the police officer route, but I couldn't get past those damn oral boards, so now I'm trying to go government civilian whether it be city, county, state or federal.What industry are you in?
Too many applicants only focus on pay, benefits, hours, vacation and so on (WIIFM - what's in it for me?).
Of course you're entitled to know all of that. But without any know-it-all arrogance, subtly revealing that you care enough about a company to learn a bit about it never hurts.
The worst part of a job search is that it costs money. Going back and forth across town to little or no result depletes a resource that you currently have no way to replenish.
I am sure the age discrimination has happened too - but it hasn't been as obvious.
Weird how it works sometimes, but I am disillusioned as to what a stint in the military would do for most anybody in the civilian job market. I think if a person spent that same time in the civilian market they would be better off job wise.
Hate those questions too. I can't predict the future and I'm here to put my best foot forward and all you can do is dwell on my weaknesses? Gtfo...Don't even get me started!
Every single job I've ever gotten has been because of a personal relationship. You need an acceptable resume. But it's always been that personal relationship that got my resume in front of the right person.
What I hate most is the damn interview process and the insipid questions that get asked...
Them: So Mr. Cabo, what's your five year plan?
My: Um, I want to make a LOT of money and golf
Them: Where do you see yourself in 7 years
Me: Um, sitting in your chair taking the pills?
Them: Tell me something you learned in college that has helped you?
Me: I can't. It was all B.S. They never told me how to lay off a 350 lb African American woman who told another manger to Eff Off and is now threatening to sue me for racial discrimination as she's throwing the contents of her desk on the floor. SECURITY! (That really happened btw, and college did absolutely nothing to prepare me for how to deal with crap like that...or pretty much anything else in the REAL work world)
Them: Tell me your greatest weakness?
Me: I'm too honest. And your question is moronic.
It's a very good thing that I'm retired.
Not to mention who is going to answer that question honestly? Although people are dumb so I suspect some probably do.Hate those questions too. I can't predict the future and I'm here to put my best foot forward and all you can do is dwell on my weaknesses? Gtfo...
I have no way of knowing whether I'd be better off if I had gone straight to civilian life, but my military training has been absolutely helpful. I suppose it depends on the field of work as some military jobs have little applicability to anything in the civilian world, but electronics technician in the Coast Guard got me a ton of RF experience.
Had I done that in the USCG I would have been 4 years ahead. Had I just gone ahead and done that instead of the USCG, I would have been 6 years ahead.
Being 50 y/o myself, I figured that although I might be fully qualified for the job, they were going to look at me like they could only get 10 years or so out of me before I'd be retiring as well.