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several arsons FRi Night McMansions and a 107ft yacht anchored near DT Seattle. Obviously NO Connection to the BofA Molotov incident
Major incidents will start to occure Monday morning during Rush Hour
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What sorts of scenarios do you perceive to be real possibilities?
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several arsons FRi Night McMansions and a 107ft yacht anchored near DT Seattle. Obviously NO Connection to the BofA Molotov incident
Major incidents will start to occure Monday morning during Rush Hour
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The Occupy movement is a big part of why I am pushing my family members to get armed. Peaceful assemblies can be great, but this group is agitated enough, and strong enough in numbers, to explode without warning.
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Exactly!!!! As long they are getting their way all is good but as soon as they are not or someone disagrees with them the rules change <broken link removed>
ANd a bunch of the others want to demonstrate but do not know the true reason why they are demonstrating <broken link removed>
I personallyh a few of these nut cases, they sit there and rant and rant and rant, and when you interject with facts, logic and reason or ask them to give you facts they get angry and go off like a bunch of looney tunes. They are the most mentally unstable around.
Do not them for logic because they will rant for hours about nothing and or give you a bunch of false logic crap (you know a sequence of stuff that makes no sense what so ever)
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US Occupy San Fran Seizes UC Berkeley Farm (and There Are Wacky Pictures)
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:43am by Buck Sexton
The UC Berkely approach to sustainable, organic farming is apparently not good enough for Occupy San Francisco.
A contingent of Bay Area Occupiers has essentially seized a communal farm — to turn it into a communal farm. This negation of property rights and common sense, it appears, "is what democracy looks like."
(Photo: Zombie)
The blogger Zombie reports on the takeover that happened on Earth Day. The farm is called the "Gill Tract," and Zombie explains the Occupiers' misconception of it below:
The farm they seized was not a working farm per se, but rather a "research farm" for the University of California, near its Berkeley campus. The only difference between the way the farm used to be (prior to a week ago) and the way it is now is that the Occupiers have transformed what was essentially a well-maintained and important open-air laboratory into a disheveled and ultimately purposeless pretend-farm for trustafarian dropouts.
(photo credit: Zombie)
This seems to demolish the motivations of the Occupiers, who have previously tried to justify their agrarian Occupation by stating that:
"We are reclaiming this land to grow healthy food to meet the needs of local communities. We envision a future of food sovereignty, in which our East Bay communities make use of available land – occupying it where necessary – for sustainable agriculture to meet local needs."
(photo credit: Zombie)
In response, Zombie points out that the University has distributed a press release with bullet points that poke plenty of holes in the premise of the Occupiers' land seizure and rebuts all of their conspiracy-mongering (the Occupiers justified their land-grab in part by saying the tract was in danger of being turned into a grocery store, and said the land is being used to research corn genetics
US Leaked Red Cross Email Shows Org. Prepping for Violence at NATO Summit in Chicago
Posted on April 30,Last week, residents of a Chicago apartment complex were advised they might want to leave ahead of the NATO summit in Chicago on May 20. Their building is near the epicenter of planned protests, and the building's manager thought they could be put in danger. It seems that wasn't a fluke: according to a new report of a leaked email, the Red Cross is prepping for possible violence, too.
(Related: Why Were Low-Flying Military Choppers Darting Between Chicago Skyscrapers?)
Local station CBS 2 obtained a copy of the email sent to volunteers in the Milwaukee, WI, area asking them to be ready to assist.
That email said the NATO summit "may create unrest or another national security incident. The American Red Cross in southeastern Wisconsin has been asked to place a number of shelters on standby in the event of evacuation of Chicago."
But here's where things start getting really interesting: no one is fessing up to telling officials to prep for such action, and instead there's a lot of finger-pointing. CBS 2 explains:
According to a chapter spokesperson, the evacuation plan is not theirs alone.
"Our direction has come from the City of Chicago and the Secret Service," she said.
Officials at Chicago's Office of Emergency Management and Communication said the directive did not come from them.
The U.S. Secret Service did not return calls for comment.
But that's not all. CBS 2 has also received reports that a "heavily armed security team will start making a very public appearance around federal buildings in the Loop this week." Officials and other sources, however, denied those reports.
Those reports might be based on the federal government's decision to create a "red zone" to protect federal buildings. The Chicago Sun-Times reported last week that such a zone would include armed security forces on patrol. The Sun-Times explains:
The Chicago Sun-Times reported this week that the plan for "Operation Red Zone" kicks into high gear next week to protect a vast area in the Loop where thousands of federal employees and dozens of government offices are located.
The Federal Protective Service will deploy additional personnel beginning May 1 [May Day], bringing in more people from out of town and outfitting them in "battle dress uniform." They will be carrying "non-lethal" long guns — bean bag weapons — in a show of force that at the same time will allow people to move in and out of the zone freely, federal employees were told.
Of course those involved with the protest are trying to downplay the news. One SEIU member, who according to the news outlet is training protesters, compared the reports to "Y2K" and said people will eventually say it's "not a big deal."
Try telling that to Chicago resident Brad Klein: "I feel a little bit unsafe, just a bit more than a little bit. It doesn't make me feel like I want to be in the city during the NATO conference
US Occupy San Fran Seizes UC Berkeley Farm (and There Are Wacky Pictures)
Posted on April 30, 2012 at 10:43am by Buck Sexton
The UC Berkely approach to sustainable, organic farming is apparently not good enough for Occupy San Francisco.
A contingent of Bay Area Occupiers has essentially seized a communal farm — to turn it into a communal farm. This negation of property rights and common sense, it appears, "is what democracy looks like."
(Photo: Zombie)
The blogger Zombie reports on the takeover that happened on Earth Day. The farm is called the "Gill Tract," and Zombie explains the Occupiers' misconception of it below:
The farm they seized was not a working farm per se, but rather a "research farm" for the University of California, near its Berkeley campus. The only difference between the way the farm used to be (prior to a week ago) and the way it is now is that the Occupiers have transformed what was essentially a well-maintained and important open-air laboratory into a disheveled and ultimately purposeless pretend-farm for trustafarian dropouts.
(photo credit: Zombie)
This seems to demolish the motivations of the Occupiers, who have previously tried to justify their agrarian Occupation by stating that:
"We are reclaiming this land to grow healthy food to meet the needs of local communities. We envision a future of food sovereignty, in which our East Bay communities make use of available land – occupying it where necessary – for sustainable agriculture to meet local needs."
(photo credit: Zombie)
In response, Zombie points out that the University has distributed a press release with bullet points that poke plenty of holes in the premise of the Occupiers' land seizure and rebuts all of their conspiracy-mongering (the Occupiers justified their land-grab in part by saying the tract was in danger of being turned into a grocery store, and said the land is being used to research corn genetics
US Leaked Red Cross Email Shows Org. Prepping for Violence at NATO Summit in Chicago
Posted on April 30,Last week, residents of a Chicago apartment complex were advised they might want to leave ahead of the NATO summit in Chicago on May 20. Their building is near the epicenter of planned protests, and the building's manager thought they could be put in danger. It seems that wasn't a fluke: according to a new report of a leaked email, the Red Cross is prepping for possible violence, too.
(Related: Why Were Low-Flying Military Choppers Darting Between Chicago Skyscrapers?)
Local station CBS 2 obtained a copy of the email sent to volunteers in the Milwaukee, WI, area asking them to be ready to assist.
That email said the NATO summit "may create unrest or another national security incident. The American Red Cross in southeastern Wisconsin has been asked to place a number of shelters on standby in the event of evacuation of Chicago."
But here's where things start getting really interesting: no one is fessing up to telling officials to prep for such action, and instead there's a lot of finger-pointing. CBS 2 explains:
According to a chapter spokesperson, the evacuation plan is not theirs alone.
"Our direction has come from the City of Chicago and the Secret Service," she said.
Officials at Chicago's Office of Emergency Management and Communication said the directive did not come from them.
The U.S. Secret Service did not return calls for comment.
But that's not all. CBS 2 has also received reports that a "heavily armed security team will start making a very public appearance around federal buildings in the Loop this week." Officials and other sources, however, denied those reports.
Those reports might be based on the federal government's decision to create a "red zone" to protect federal buildings. The Chicago Sun-Times reported last week that such a zone would include armed security forces on patrol. The Sun-Times explains:
The Chicago Sun-Times reported this week that the plan for "Operation Red Zone" kicks into high gear next week to protect a vast area in the Loop where thousands of federal employees and dozens of government offices are located.
The Federal Protective Service will deploy additional personnel beginning May 1 [May Day], bringing in more people from out of town and outfitting them in "battle dress uniform." They will be carrying "non-lethal" long guns — bean bag weapons — in a show of force that at the same time will allow people to move in and out of the zone freely, federal employees were told.
Of course those involved with the protest are trying to downplay the news. One SEIU member, who according to the news outlet is training protesters, compared the reports to "Y2K" and said people will eventually say it's "not a big deal."
Try telling that to Chicago resident Brad Klein: "I feel a little bit unsafe, just a bit more than a little bit. It doesn't make me feel like I want to be in the city during the NATO conference
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May Day Protest? Banks Get White Powder Envelopes
April 30, 2012
Envelopes containing suspicious powder were sent through the mail to at least seven locations in Manhattan, primarily Wells Fargo banks, in an apparent May Day protest, police officials said.
"This is a reminder that you are not in control," said a message that arrived with the envelopes. "Just in case you needed some incentive to stop working we have a little surprise for you. Think fast you have seconds."
Four of the seven samples have tested negative so far. The envelopes apparently contained corn starch.
Police believe the suspicious envelopes were mailed by militants from within the Occupy Wall Street movement.
Labor, immigration and Occupy Wall Street activists are planning protests for "May Day," May 1, which also is known as international workers' day. The intent is to show the "1 percent" what life without the working class' "99 percent" would be like.
Chris Goodney/Bloomberg/Getty ImagesPedestrians pass a Wells Fargo & Co. bank... View Full Size Chris Goodney/Bloomberg/Getty ImagesPedestrians pass a Wells Fargo & Co. bank branch in New York, Oct. 15, 2011.
San Francisco-based Wells Fargo may have been singled out for the white powder mailings because about half of a key dozen Occupy Wall Street members have backgrounds in Oakland, San Francisco and Berkeley, and similar incidents occurred in California earlier this week, police sources said.
In the New York cases, the envelopes mainly appear to have reached low-level workers at the bank branches.
"Apparently the message was aimed at the mail room workers among the '99 percent,'" New York police spokesman Deputy Commissioner Paul Browne told ABC News.
The envelopes, intended for May Day delivery, arrived at the banks early.
"They underestimated the efficiency of the U.S. Postal Service," one official said.
Occupy Wall Street threatens to block New York-area tunnels and bridges in the morning in an effort to keep commuters from arriving at work, police officials said. They also have urged pickets at "99 locations," an obviously symbolic number.
The Occupy movement has identified 30 to 40 locations, including banks, where they intend to block entrances, officials said.
There will be a significant amount of police officers on duty to counter the protests, though police officials did not give specific numbers on the planned deployment. The day shift is the largest of three tours, with a minimum of 7,000 officers routinely on duty and the ability to hold the overnight shift for coverage.
An additional large number of officers will be on duty for a labor march slated for 5:30 p.m. That march has for several years been a peaceful event by organized labor.
In Los Angeles, officials said 2,500 police will be on duty for the May Day events, and there will be a command center with nearly 100 officers
May Day Protest? Banks Get White Powder Envelopes
April 30, 2012
Envelopes containing suspicious powder were sent through the mail to at least seven locations in Manhattan, primarily Wells Fargo banks, in an apparent May Day protest, police officials said.
"This is a reminder that you are not in control," said a message that arrived with the envelopes. "Just in case you needed some incentive to stop working we have a little surprise for you. Think fast you have seconds."
Four of the seven samples have tested negative so far. The envelopes apparently contained corn starch.
Police believe the suspicious envelopes were mailed by militants from within the Occupy Wall Street movement.
Labor, immigration and Occupy Wall Street activists are planning protests for "May Day," May 1, which also is known as international workers' day. The intent is to show the "1 percent" what life without the working class' "99 percent" would be like.
Chris Goodney/Bloomberg/Getty ImagesPedestrians pass a Wells Fargo & Co. bank... View Full Size Chris Goodney/Bloomberg/Getty ImagesPedestrians pass a Wells Fargo & Co. bank branch in New York, Oct. 15, 2011.
San Francisco-based Wells Fargo may have been singled out for the white powder mailings because about half of a key dozen Occupy Wall Street members have backgrounds in Oakland, San Francisco and Berkeley, and similar incidents occurred in California earlier this week, police sources said.
In the New York cases, the envelopes mainly appear to have reached low-level workers at the bank branches.
"Apparently the message was aimed at the mail room workers among the '99 percent,'" New York police spokesman Deputy Commissioner Paul Browne told ABC News.
The envelopes, intended for May Day delivery, arrived at the banks early.
"They underestimated the efficiency of the U.S. Postal Service," one official said.
Occupy Wall Street threatens to block New York-area tunnels and bridges in the morning in an effort to keep commuters from arriving at work, police officials said. They also have urged pickets at "99 locations," an obviously symbolic number.
The Occupy movement has identified 30 to 40 locations, including banks, where they intend to block entrances, officials said.
There will be a significant amount of police officers on duty to counter the protests, though police officials did not give specific numbers on the planned deployment. The day shift is the largest of three tours, with a minimum of 7,000 officers routinely on duty and the ability to hold the overnight shift for coverage.
An additional large number of officers will be on duty for a labor march slated for 5:30 p.m. That march has for several years been a peaceful event by organized labor.
In Los Angeles, officials said 2,500 police will be on duty for the May Day events, and there will be a command center with nearly 100 officers
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Simple things like knowing your neighbors. Having water and food. Having a heating and cooking source that doesn't require electricity. Having first aid kits. Having training in different weapons for defense. All of these things make you better prepared regardless of the event. And honestly, why not have them around if you can afford to have them around?[/QUOTE
I agree.
It is better to have and not need than to need and not have.
Who knows what may happen in our crazy World today, but common sense and caution dictates everyone should have a gun and extra ammo, water, food, RX, etc. with aplan "B" if they have to leave home ready.
My concern is the violence we read about everywhere today, and the social divide and political hate, it wouldn't take much to set off major civil unrest, which could conceivably spread given the right trigger event in our country. Lot of fear, uncertainty and pent up anger and frustration it seems everywhere with most working people.
I am ready is all heck breaks lose one day the best I can be ready.
I agree.
It is better to have and not need than to need and not have.
Who knows what may happen in our crazy World today, but common sense and caution dictates everyone should have a gun and extra ammo, water, food, RX, etc. with aplan "B" if they have to leave home ready.
My concern is the violence we read about everywhere today, and the social divide and political hate, it wouldn't take much to set off major civil unrest, which could conceivably spread given the right trigger event in our country. Lot of fear, uncertainty and pent up anger and frustration it seems everywhere with most working people.
I am ready is all heck breaks lose one day the best I can be ready.
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I concur. Someone elsewhere said that the veneer of society is very thin, and that it doesn't take much to peel that veneer off of society.
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It's "the thin veneer of civilization" Scratch through it and underneath you will find the savage.
Actually:
Civilization: a thin veneer over barbarianism. ~John M. Shanahan, The Most Brilliant Thoughts of All Time (In Two Lines or Less)
Actually:
Civilization: a thin veneer over barbarianism. ~John M. Shanahan, The Most Brilliant Thoughts of All Time (In Two Lines or Less)
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A few old quotes to aid the thought process
There are many humorous things in the world, among them the white man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages. ~Mark Twain, Following the Equator, 1897
Civilization begins with soap. ~Galveston Times, quoted in Quotations for Special Occasions by Maud van Buren
Is man's civilization only a wrappage, through which the savage nature of him can still burst, infernal as ever? ~Thomas Carlyle, The French Revolution, vol III, book V, chapter 7
The first human who hurled an insult instead of a stone was the founder of civilization. ~Sigmund Freud
Culture is roughly anything we do and the monkeys don't. ~Lord Raglan
We are born princes and the civilizing process makes us frogs. ~Syrus
We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public. ~Bryan White
Progress may have been all right once, but it went on too long... ~Ogden Nash, "Come, Come, Kerouac! My Generation is Beater Than Yours," New Yorker, 1959 April 4 (Thanks, Garson O'Toole!)
Civilization is hideously fragile... there's not much between us and the Horrors underneath, just about a coat of varnish. ~C.P. Snow
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated. ~Confucius
Man - despite his artistic pretensions, his sophistication, and his many accomplishments - owes his existence to a six inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains. ~Author and exact wording unknown, I've been told this was quoted by Paul Harvey
I've made an odd discovery. Every time I talk to a savant I feel quite sure that happiness is no longer a possibility. Yet when I talk with my gardener, I'm convinced of the opposite. ~Bertrand Russell
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We should distrust any enterprise that requires new clothes. ~Henry David Thoreau, Walden
We pass through this world but once. Few tragedies can be more extensive than the stunting of life, few injustices deeper than the denial of an opportunity to strive or even to hope, by a limit imposed from without, but falsely identified as lying within. ~Stephen Jay Gould, The Mismeasure of Man
There are many humorous things in the world, among them the white man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages. ~Mark Twain, Following the Equator, 1897
Civilization begins with soap. ~Galveston Times, quoted in Quotations for Special Occasions by Maud van Buren
Is man's civilization only a wrappage, through which the savage nature of him can still burst, infernal as ever? ~Thomas Carlyle, The French Revolution, vol III, book V, chapter 7
The first human who hurled an insult instead of a stone was the founder of civilization. ~Sigmund Freud
Culture is roughly anything we do and the monkeys don't. ~Lord Raglan
We are born princes and the civilizing process makes us frogs. ~Syrus
We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public. ~Bryan White
Progress may have been all right once, but it went on too long... ~Ogden Nash, "Come, Come, Kerouac! My Generation is Beater Than Yours," New Yorker, 1959 April 4 (Thanks, Garson O'Toole!)
Civilization is hideously fragile... there's not much between us and the Horrors underneath, just about a coat of varnish. ~C.P. Snow
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated. ~Confucius
Man - despite his artistic pretensions, his sophistication, and his many accomplishments - owes his existence to a six inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains. ~Author and exact wording unknown, I've been told this was quoted by Paul Harvey
I've made an odd discovery. Every time I talk to a savant I feel quite sure that happiness is no longer a possibility. Yet when I talk with my gardener, I'm convinced of the opposite. ~Bertrand Russell
MY PERSONAL FAVORITE
We should distrust any enterprise that requires new clothes. ~Henry David Thoreau, Walden
We pass through this world but once. Few tragedies can be more extensive than the stunting of life, few injustices deeper than the denial of an opportunity to strive or even to hope, by a limit imposed from without, but falsely identified as lying within. ~Stephen Jay Gould, The Mismeasure of Man
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The only reasons I think we are still here is that we are completely open to being the billy club for TPTB around the globe; once we refuse we will be flushed. Plus our owners have spent decades brainwashing the populace into a complete deluded and brainwashed state. They have the world's largest superpower (and most bankrupt) nation under their thumb. We make 30s Germans look like radical protestors.
People here are, well, simply brainless; non-thinking drones; sorry but true. 125 years ago Americans were about 100x LESS deluded/smarter, whatever you want to call it. A graduate student today could not pass an 8th grade level test back then. That is absolutely true. Proof - http://thinklab.typepad.com/think_lab/2006/03/8th_grade_exami.html
People here are, well, simply brainless; non-thinking drones; sorry but true. 125 years ago Americans were about 100x LESS deluded/smarter, whatever you want to call it. A graduate student today could not pass an 8th grade level test back then. That is absolutely true. Proof - http://thinklab.typepad.com/think_lab/2006/03/8th_grade_exami.html
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I saw that video first in e mails and shared with everyone on my contact list. The response from most was shock and awe. What is maybe worse these fools may even vote? Lord help us? 
Sad but get in a politcal conversation and most are illogical, uninformed and closed minded to other ideas or data.
Thanks for the posting and video.
Sad but get in a politcal conversation and most are illogical, uninformed and closed minded to other ideas or data.
Thanks for the posting and video.
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Thanks RetiredGal, but I'd say anyone who bothers with debating politics is also deluded. It is a complete sham and a waste of time. All important politicians are pre-selected, not elected; all bought and paid for puppets that make NO critical decisions themselves.
As George Carlin so correctly stated: "Forget the politicians, they're irrelevant."
"Politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners."
Those that cannot accept that refuse to absorb the reality that we are nothing but slaves with NO SAY. Just because the banker media will be clammering 24/7 all year talking about this puppet or that puppet does not mean you should pay ANY attention to it.
As George Carlin so correctly stated: "Forget the politicians, they're irrelevant."
"Politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners."
Those that cannot accept that refuse to absorb the reality that we are nothing but slaves with NO SAY. Just because the banker media will be clammering 24/7 all year talking about this puppet or that puppet does not mean you should pay ANY attention to it.
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I did not know that my co-workers went on field trip and got interviewed,
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Interesting thread.
To the original post, I don't believe it is possible to prepare for every possible scenario. But I do think that one should be prepared for, at least, the most likely scenario's. I take into account my age, health and any particular things we may need in a one month period. Prescription medicines are really going to be a problem for some, including me. Most pharmacies don't give more than a one month supply.
Things that we try to prepare for:
Other things that we worry about, but are not something we prepare for:
To the original post, I don't believe it is possible to prepare for every possible scenario. But I do think that one should be prepared for, at least, the most likely scenario's. I take into account my age, health and any particular things we may need in a one month period. Prescription medicines are really going to be a problem for some, including me. Most pharmacies don't give more than a one month supply.
Things that we try to prepare for:
- Extended power loss due to weather or other reason,
- Wild fire (keep Camper ready to leave immediately)
- Devastating earthquake (the "big one" could happen any time)
- Volcano eruption (although we are West of the Cascade Range)
- Crime related (home invasion and personal attacks)
Other things that we worry about, but are not something we prepare for:
- Nuclear war, here or abroad (has almost happened twice in my lifetime, so far we've been lucky)
- Super volcano somewhere in the world
- Total breakdown of civilization as we know it
- Attack on our satellites, loss of communications
- Attack on our electronic devices
- A socialist government, loss of our freedoms
- Major Tsunami (would not directly affect us, but could wipe out the coastal areas)
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Of any of those scenarios, a global economic collapse would seem more likely and is looming on the horizon. The USA - in its ponzi debt bubble - has the farthest to fall.
Nuclear war or EMP are almost 0% because those that plot war have also given us our surveillance electronic society and they won't give that up.
Fascist or socialist government - we are already there - big business interests and banks control all important politicians and government alphabet agencies.
Earthquakes/volcanoes can of course occur naturally or be sped along with HAARP.
Economic collapse, specifically, the dollar is the major threat short term. Probably coinciding with a WWIII scenario; lashing out unnecessarily at Iran to profit the MI complex, expansion into more of Africa, basically the whole planet. We are doing a Roman Empire, pre-collapse. In any case, there is some horrible crap coming in the next 1-3 years regardless. Life changing stuff.
Nuclear war or EMP are almost 0% because those that plot war have also given us our surveillance electronic society and they won't give that up.
Fascist or socialist government - we are already there - big business interests and banks control all important politicians and government alphabet agencies.
Earthquakes/volcanoes can of course occur naturally or be sped along with HAARP.
Economic collapse, specifically, the dollar is the major threat short term. Probably coinciding with a WWIII scenario; lashing out unnecessarily at Iran to profit the MI complex, expansion into more of Africa, basically the whole planet. We are doing a Roman Empire, pre-collapse. In any case, there is some horrible crap coming in the next 1-3 years regardless. Life changing stuff.
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Many good points to poder for each of us.
Here on the coast, the big Tsunami is when not if someday. I live high so my threat would be contaminated water system, power outage, medical supplies and RX, and looters from those that didn't prepare. Probably most of the bridges will be wiped out so access from inland will be a problem going either way, along with emergency help and materials/supplies with our small local airports. Main hospitals are over inland more about 60 miles east. LEO will be scattered and isolated from each other and perhaps communication issues will prevail too? Much of the coastal highway will be washed away from the sandy terrain in many places.
Survival will depend on those that obey the sirens when they go off and get to high ground and have go bags packed for 3 days minimum supplies.
I prepare and can a help a few but not too many without jeopardizing ourselves by doing so.
The big issue will be when people are tired, hungry, homeless and hurting. God help us then?
People must take care of themselves and plan ahead for their families or maybe perish?
Better to have and not need, than to need and not have.
Here on the coast, the big Tsunami is when not if someday. I live high so my threat would be contaminated water system, power outage, medical supplies and RX, and looters from those that didn't prepare. Probably most of the bridges will be wiped out so access from inland will be a problem going either way, along with emergency help and materials/supplies with our small local airports. Main hospitals are over inland more about 60 miles east. LEO will be scattered and isolated from each other and perhaps communication issues will prevail too? Much of the coastal highway will be washed away from the sandy terrain in many places.
Survival will depend on those that obey the sirens when they go off and get to high ground and have go bags packed for 3 days minimum supplies.
I prepare and can a help a few but not too many without jeopardizing ourselves by doing so.
The big issue will be when people are tired, hungry, homeless and hurting. God help us then?
People must take care of themselves and plan ahead for their families or maybe perish?
Better to have and not need, than to need and not have.
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I agree on the financial collapse idea most of all the possibilities. Then everyone will have their own hands full for survival of the fittest.
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I agree with the economic collapse scenario. We're certainly headed that way. Same with the Socialist Government. We've lost many of our freedoms and continue to do so at a faster rate. The scale is sliding in that direction.
I can only hope you're right about the Nuclear and EMP thing. Nuclear missiles have been very close to launching at least twice in my lifetime. Things have changed since the 1983 close call, I'm sure, but I don't doubt there is still danger...especially in the Middle East and an all out nuclear war there would most certainly spread to us. If not directly, the fall out would. NOVA | False Alarms in the Nuclear Age At any rate, it is not something I would try to prepare for. Too much involved and it is probably not servivable even then.
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Personally I don't care a whit for far-left or far-right end-of-the-world scenarios. I don't have a political ax to grind and have nothing against poor folks or rich folks, gay folks or straight folks, bible-pounders or atheists. My only concern is the safety of me and my loved ones. I stay armed and alert for that reason alone.
I do agree with some earlier posters that a financial system collapse is the most likely civilization-ending scenario that we may face in the near future. Given how delicate our entire supply-chain structure really is, a financial collapse would probably stop the entire country in its tracks. That would quickly mean no food resupply, no medicines, no electricity or other power sources. A couple weeks of that and we revert to the 12th century. At that point, those with the guns will be in charge. Our government would probably declare martial law out of necessity, but in the end, that would prove ineffective.
I can't speak for anybody else, but I intend to shelter and feed my family no matter what.
I do agree with some earlier posters that a financial system collapse is the most likely civilization-ending scenario that we may face in the near future. Given how delicate our entire supply-chain structure really is, a financial collapse would probably stop the entire country in its tracks. That would quickly mean no food resupply, no medicines, no electricity or other power sources. A couple weeks of that and we revert to the 12th century. At that point, those with the guns will be in charge. Our government would probably declare martial law out of necessity, but in the end, that would prove ineffective.
I can't speak for anybody else, but I intend to shelter and feed my family no matter what.
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