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What is your experience in the 2nd amendment social movement?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by pizmugen86, May 7, 2015.

  1. pizmugen86

    pizmugen86 Linn County Member

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    What is your experience in today's social movement that focuses on reinforcing the 2nd amendment? I am a university student that is currently taking a social movements class. I am interested in learning more about others experience as activists in this movement. We are allowed to choose our topic for a project that includes interviews, and I am excited to highlight the second amendment and also bring awareness to SB941 and how our rights are being affected each and everyday. I recognize this fight as social activism, as a way to support and ensure the continuation of rights that so many have sacrificed to protect. Your thoughts?
     
  2. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    You've scratched the surface, but if it gets your paper a good grade...
    Read Paul Revere's Ride
    Lars Larson on Gov
    This wouldn't be an issue except for the forces whittling away at the 2nd.
    "2nd amendment social movement" was lifted from Bloomberg's website.
     
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  3. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    From what I have seen it is something designed to destroy and undermine the 2nd Amendment and brainwash the youth against it. A dangerous Marxist/Communistic approach. I hope some one is not trying to infiltrate this site with all that crap. If so this type thread needs to be shut down 100% and never allowed to propagate here.
    It will only lead to evil things being done to the Constitution.
    The undermining infiltration into our way of life is being ramped up and people like Bloomberg, Soros and their ilk are doing it.
    This is a dangerous track and a means to suck information from unsuspecting people for ill will.
     
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  4. pizmugen86

    pizmugen86 Linn County Member

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    Let me be clear so that my first post is not misconstrued. I am referring to the fight to KEEP our rights to bear arms as the social movement, not a group meant to remove them. The fact that a large group of people are becoming activists to ensure that our 2nd amendment rights are not taken away from us is the definition of a social movement. This term is not used by me as an anti gun rights term, quite the opposite actually. There is no hidden agenda here, just a student that supports gun rights and is trying to bring the idea to a population (college students/faculty) that does not often focus on this most important right of the people. Events like the May 30th rally really are great examples that those in support of the second amendment have now become activists in a fight to ensure the continuation of our right to bear arms. Activism occurs when a group of people see injustice and act. This happening now, in the form of politicians trying to attack the 2nd amendment and redefine it. I am sure that if you asked people like T. Jefferson, G. Washington or Thomas Paine they would be furious at groups trying to redefine our right to bear arms. They were activists in their own right, spreading freedom and liberty to anyone who would listen at the time. This post is in full support of the 2nd amendment, I am trying to bring awareness to a new generation that seems to not care about working actively to ensure our rights are protected.
     
  5. thorborg

    thorborg portland oregon Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    My age and life experiences suggest to me that the fact that there is a "social movements class" means someone has too much time on their hands.
    Those who work hard for a comfortable life don't have time for "social movements" don't care what you look like or your life style as long as you are fair, honest and leave them alone.
    I see those who promote, teach, and attend "Social movement" classes as unethical bullies without constructive purpose, direction or moral compass.
    Get a job, start a family, leave the constitution alone and people to their own devise.
    Looking back, nearly all the angst in my life has been caused by people who want to run my life. To that I say get your own life and leave others alone.
    Personally, Taku can get a little heavy, but in this case I'm leaning on his side of the fence when he said "This is a dangerous track and a means to suck information from unsuspecting people for ill will."
     
  6. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    The 'movement' for the past 80 years has been to move away from the 2nd amendment. That's how I would frame your paper.

    Give the history of the Constitution and the men who wrote it, the unique idea of our Constitution and it's focus on the limiting of government and then how in the past 80 years the assault on the 2nd amendment.

    I would note the attempts to weaken the Constitution through new ideas that it is a 'living document' to be changed and morphed. You can't overlook the oath all law makers take to the Constitution and then turn around and write laws which turn rights into privileges. May want to define the differences there too.

    And then there is the media and it's help in destroying the 2nd as well. Very basically, the idea that guns are killing people (and not people killing people) as well as this 'gun violence' versus just plain old fashion violence. There is a bending of minds and framing opinion going on to demonize a simple tool.

    Lastly the portrayal of those who hold the Constitution dear are portrayed as 'gun-culture', backwards, uneducated, afraid, bigoted, etc... it's complete campaign against the 2nd.
     
  7. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    It isn't a "social movement." It's a battle for the survival of the CONSTITUTION!!!!!

    Sheldon
     
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  8. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    And.....
    Most likely if you are trying to protect the Constitution and the 2nd in a college surrounding your professors will most likely demonise you.
    Most are marxist/communist leaning.
    ie; the real enemies of the nation. There are a few exceptions but not many.
     
  9. Gator Monroe

    Gator Monroe Southern Cascades Well-Known Member

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    After over 20 years at Firearm Forum/Boards I've learned that EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL and that the "Socially Liberal" posters there have in some cases MANY OTHER issues that trump this hobby (2A/RTKBA) that they dabble in occasionally. And that the posters who dig back into the 20th century to implicate Republicans while disregarding ALL recent Democrat moves to squash Firearm Rights & freedoms are in some cases just "Divide & Conquer " paid web room warriors of the left. And that if you call them or point out the recent era differences between the parties on 2A/RTKBA you are deemed "Too provocative" and can face teh banhammer for the sake of Frorm/Board Unity ...
     
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    stascom Oregon New Member

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    I don't see this going over well around people who haven't left school in 20 years. Academic life makes people very remote from reality. Seems only fitting that they turn socialist and anti-individualist at some point or another.
     
  11. CarlMc

    CarlMc Safely north of Seattle Active Member

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    Perhaps begin by treating the Federalist Papers as interviews, then treat various writings and real interviews since then as interviews. Close by having actual interviews with living people. This provides a historical framework of the ebbs and flows of gun right, covers the racist roots of gun control, and allows you to bring things around to the current state of things.

    Providing real quotes from the various players are very important, with specific quotes from Supreme Court justices, governors, and so on.
    http://www.old-yankee.com/rkba/racial_laws.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_patrol
     
  12. Greenbug

    Greenbug Bend Well-Known Member

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    "Social Movement"... Is that when you just gotta go when you're at a party?:D:eek::rolleyes:
     
  13. Koda

    Koda Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    so you want to know what its like being in todays "2nd amendment social movement"? Get yourself an AR15, sling it on your back and go shopping downtown... try Pioneer Place. It wont take long and you'll find your will have plenty to write about what its like to be a 2nd Amendment supporter.
     
  14. PrDubi

    PrDubi Deep in the heart of Dirty South Salem Active Member

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    Social movement.....interesting.....

    I visit personally my elected officials and remind them constantly to uphold the constitution.

    I take time off from work to do that.
    End of my movement.....
     
  15. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    No movement is complete until the paperwork is done. o_O
     
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  16. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    It's not a social movement, its simply about protecting the constitution, we aren't radicals or psychopaths that want kill children. We are freedom loving Americans that think our founding fathers were much brighter and saw first hand the evils of a overgrown government, and that the constitution is a most important document. We just happen to enjoy things that make loud noises and put little holes In paper.

    as for DEFENDING the rights we have we look at the facts and realize the damage done by lunatics is far less then the the good that is done in protecting ourselves, and our nation.

    when they pass unreasonable unenforceable laws we rally, petition, vote, speak and protest. Everyone has a different set of believes they have we believe that the second amendment is the amendment to protect the rest.

    I suggest you do some independent research from many angles and crunch the numbers then you'll see and be able to convince a few others that firearms aren't so bad and over 100 million Americans aren't nutjobs.

    im not saying you need to go buy an ar-15 or wear camouflage to wall-mart, just stop supporting the people that want to take the guns away. Because those people aren't just trying to take guns they want, your money, time, tell you how to raise your children, force people to go against their religious believes, strip your property rights, tell you what sort of car you can drive, and so many other things, they want you to depend on them instead of your self, and many other things. in the name of fairness, and equality by taking away your free will to make a choice for your self.

    Oh the OP is totally a plant. :)
     
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  17. albin25

    albin25 Lewiston Idaho Well-Known Member

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    "Oh the OP is totally a plant. :)"

    I'm figuring a Ficus...and probably potted?:)
     
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  18. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    You said, "potted". :D
     
  19. Gator Monroe

    Gator Monroe Southern Cascades Well-Known Member

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    :eek:Social Justice seeking Firearms enthusiasts
     
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    dbpep Southern Oregon Member

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    My experience is that the anti-gun crowd is severely misinformed. They come up with some of the most ignorant comments like saying that "you can buy a gun online without a background check" (which I suppose is half-true). Also, they are not willing to look at statistics from credible sources. Instead, they prefer to piece to together numbers to fit their agenda. The people who run these anti-gun organizations get members on board who lack the ability to do any research for themselves.

    I might be able to acknowledge the anti's legitimacy if they presented facts proving that gun control works and didn't prey upon the ill-informed to up their numbers. However, I feel that if citizens were more educated on current gun laws, researched for themselves, and saw the number of success stories vs. tragedies with guns, they might not be so anti anymore...
     
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