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With a handgun what do you consider "good enough" accuracy? I'll start, with my M&P 357 Sig Shield I say it's good enough for self defense because it'll put all of it's shots in a fist sized group dead center in a paper plate at 30'. At the far end My 44 Mag Redhawk will hit a 5 gallon propane bottle every time at 100 yds so I call that good enough accuracy for brush hunting. I've heard of other guns being called "combat accurate" but I don't know what that is never having been in combat. I know back in the day very accurate guns were know as bullseye or silhouette but those terms seem to have fallen by the wayside.
 
Depends on the purpose of a firearm. A deer or elk rifle to me is a 1" at a 100 yards. A varmint or target rifle is closer to half an inch. A dangerous game rifle is 2.5" at a hundred yards. These are theoretical numbers
Some deer rifles shoot better and that is great. These are my standards.
 
I like the idea of "good enough" for the task at hand. I'd like 4 inch groups at 25 yards offhand with a self defense handgun. For a target or varmint centerfire rifle I'm happy with 3/4 MOA since that's the best I can hold from prone or sandbags. Rifles like ARs are picky about ammo, for example 1.5 MOA with handloads or 4 MOA with Wolf.
 
Good enough for me is pretty loose. I want to be able to hit a pie plate on the move with every shot from my magazine, whether that's 6 or 60. A pie plate is a head shot, or a vitals shot and nearly always a hit on a steel target. The furthest I typically shoot pistols is 60ft so I guess a pie plate at 60 feet is all I ask.
 
For me good enough without reference to time is meaningless. Slow fire for me is nearly meaningless as it woudl be rare indeed where you could do that in a self defense situation. Anybody can be very accurate in relaxed slow fire. Under pressure, drawing and shooting multiple targets or moving targets, moving, is much more difficult and a better test of accuracy imo.
 
With a handgun what do you consider "good enough" accuracy? I'll start, with my M&P 357 Sig Shield I say it's good enough for self defense because it'll put all of it's shots in a fist sized group dead center in a paper plate at 30'. At the far end My 44 Mag Redhawk will hit a 5 gallon propane bottle every time at 100 yds so I call that good enough accuracy for brush hunting. I've heard of other guns being called "combat accurate" but I don't know what that is never having been in combat. I know back in the day very accurate guns were know as bullseye or silhouette but those terms seem to have fallen by the wayside.
Outshooting my friends :D
 
If I can pick off clay pigeons at the 50 yard line I would be ecstatic. most of my handguns will do that.
My limiting factor is now my eyesight. without my glasses I can't find the sights, and with the glasses on the target fades away.
My limit now is 30 yds. But the guns are capable of more! DR
 
As long as I can hit steel at 50 yards with every shot from my Beretta Bobcat, I'm a happy guy :s0155:

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…… It's not as hard as it sounds 😁
 
Reliably hitting 4" steel at 60 feet with a service-sized handgun is my quick n dirty "good enough".

Reliably hitting 6" steel at 30 feet with a dinky pocket gun is "good enough" for me.

1 MOA or better 5-shot groups with a bolt rifle at 200-400 yds is good enough for me. 1.2 MOA or better with an AR is good enough at 100-200 yards.
 
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I was pretty surprised with the accuracy, off hand, of my bobcat.
The lack of reliable feeding ( thus far) was not a surprise. More magazines and ammo types later on is the next step.
Bobcat was the worst gun I ever owned. Erma .22 was second. Bought both at 18? and they taught me a good lesson. Avoid that crap like the plague and super carefully study reliability of any gun before buying one. Been a joy ever since in terms of gun reliability.

My experience with the bobcat from another thread:

"Beretta bobcat in 22lr. Nasty POS that when it actually fires shoots the case back into ur face (it is built with no extractor). Impossible to shoot accurately. Hammer bite. Slide bite. Noisy. If it gets the slightest bit dirty it becomes a Jam-o-matic. Vague, very heavy trigger. Very ammo sensitive. Hammer is tiny and hard to get a grip on and is ridiculously hard to pull back. Extremely tiny surface to grip slide and way too hard to rack slide. Crappy, hard, and cheap-feeling bakelite-type grips that melt with gun cleaner. Nasty and harsh to shoot."

So i wasn't that happy with it. :s0112: Have never bought a Beretta since because that experience was so bad. Did buy a Walther made Beretta .22 clone though.
 
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I consider myself a service grade shooter. That is, would the shot be likely to disable an opponent with whatever weapon at a given range. So I use six inch round home made targets for reference. I can do that well enough at 100 yards with an M1 Rifle or an AR with open sights. Better with the AR than the M1. I use the same criterion for pistol only at shorter ranges. Like 15 yards.

I expect and get better groups with hunting type rifles having glass optics.

Bench shooting and combat shooting are two different things. So I'm not sure how good my service grade shooting would be under combat conditions.

I also claim a handicap for age and infirmity.
 

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