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What if you are involved ina shooting?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by retiredgal, Jun 10, 2012.

  1. retiredgal

    retiredgal Post Falls, Idaho Active Member

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    Keep your mouth shut until you talk to an attorney!

    Watch this video and learn. Today's anti gun fervor is not good if you are involved in a gun incident and DA's will probably come after you if they can and you talk to much when you should have stayed quiet? Think before putting your moth in motion.

    What To Do When The Police Come | The Loadout Room
     
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  2. NoviceSquared

    NoviceSquared portland Member

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    Good advice.

    I've always really liked that "Don't talk to the police" video. Even if you are 100% innocent, talking too much can only add to your chances of jail time. The prosecutor will have a record of it and it's his job to twist it into an admission of guilt. It's his job to pick apart any inadvertent contradictions or inconsistencies and make you look like you're lying.
     
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  3. Ghost_2.0

    Ghost_2.0 Oregon Member

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    is there a good attorney around the portland area that specializes in these kinds of defense situations?
     
  4. Dinged

    Dinged Portland, OR Active Member

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    I would like to know as well so I know who to call
     
  5. Misterbill

    Misterbill Yakima County, Washington New Member

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    i think the linked article is very bare bones and in a couple of places factually incorrect as well as not the best advice.

    A much better comprehensive view is available from these guys, who ARE lawyers and specialize in this rather arcane area of law.

    What Every Gun Owner Needs to Know About Self-Defense Law
    The OP, while well meaning, left out a huge host of variables. The article is poorly written and has a few factual errors as well as IMO some rather bad advice (lawyering up in all cases).

    According to the lawyer I trust most in these cases (a criminal lawyer with substantial experience in self-defense law) a bare-boned explanation is not going to hurt you and may well keep you from spending a pointless night in jail.

    Remember in mpost cases, if you were at home and shot an intruder, there is very little likelihood you will even be considered for charges. Tell the cops where you were when you heard the sounds, what you saw when you took the shot, anything that the cops don't know about that you do (witnesses, tossed evidence, etc) and then tell them you don't want to make any further statement until after you've consulted with an attorney and had 24 hours to settle down.

    Damn near every police agency in the country gives their officers 24 hours after a shooting before demanding a statement. Point this out and ask the same. (You're a lousy witness anyway right after the fact and any competent detective will grasp this).

    I advise students to only lawyer up if there is no weapon apparent, the shootiong is outside of the home, or for some other reason they think the shooting might appear "questionable" to a hostile observer. In those cases, yes, it's far better to spend a night in jail than make a self-incriminating statement.

    -As for calling all your relatives? Really? You were just (moments ago) in a fight for your life and you killed someone. Does anyone here really think it's likely that you're going to have the presence of mind to call your sister and tell her to STFU? -Neither do I. This is silly and frankly needless, especially in the moments after the shooting when you need to focus on police contact, getting your lawyer there ASAP and nothing else.
     
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    duran21 Lacey Active Member

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    Don't expect a parade for your work after a shooting, heck even the police are forced to give up their badge and gun after a shooting until it is declared as justified.
     
  7. lowly monk

    lowly monk Beaverton, Oregon. Just a guy. Bronze Supporter

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  8. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    1. After the shooting, the ONLY thing you say is "I was afraid for my life".
    2. Then you lawyer-up.

    I got that advice from a former neighbor who is retired LE/SWAT. I used to think the advice was a tad extreme... until I saw articles about some obvious home invasions (with a shooting) in the news, and various Snohomish County prosecutors implying that charges were under consideration against the home owner.

    I'm getting really sick of the evolution to a nanny state in this country. Let's go back to a rope and a tree, and stop with paying for the person to be in prison for a lifetime and a burden on the taxpayers.
     
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    lamrith tacoma Active Member

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  11. retiredgal

    retiredgal Post Falls, Idaho Active Member

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    Any recommendations for other places in the NW ?

    I'm interested myself in the central coast area ?

    Lets share some good information with each other ?
     
  12. BSG 75

    BSG 75 Oregon Well-Known Member

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  13. Misterbill

    Misterbill Yakima County, Washington New Member

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    Legal advice from a cop is one of the worst ideas around. There are ample sources out there compiled by attorneys who specialize in self-defense law. Some LEO's half-assed opinion means nothing unless he can show you his JD.