The funny thing is in the end we both want the same thing - for crazy people to stop killing innocent people. Debating on what AR stands for is irrelevant - great they're educated now does it matter? No. I think we truly need to think about this as a society - crazy people are here - it doesn't matter if they were born here, race, creed or intent - they're crazy. Society cannot identify them and prevent from having a gun legally or illegally let alone stop them - and if someone close to them knew that " oh yeah Bill - that guy is crazy" great example the Orlando shooters wife. She knew it and did nothing perhaps she was part of the plan - we'll know soon enough.... I hate the argument - why do you need an AR15 but what is the appropriate answer - hunting prairie dogs - competition - target shooting...perhaps. The responses i see here from outsiders completely piss me off - AR15 is scary shooting one gave me PTSD etc... in fact its probably one of the tamer rifles to use if you really want to attack a group/crowd etc. I wont mention other weapons here but most of you will get my drift. How do we stop the obvious keep these guys, bad guys, from buying weapons legally? Illegally is outside of our control, but legally - we should have that bubblegum pinned. This isn't our problem, but guess what it is.. Hard line approach wont work anymore...cars kill hammers kill everything kills - how do we remove one of the easiest tools to use to stop it. The ooze is creeping closer. I see it everyday. I've been chewing on this for a while - I figured I would it would start here with folks I think can identify with me. If not let me have it. oh I do apologize for this disjointed and somewhat elliptical rant. thanks for all who read this far.