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What I'd really like is an AR-15 A1

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by Ironbar, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. Ironbar

    Ironbar Tigard, OR Well-Known Member

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    I am so NOT a fan of these new-fangled, overblown, quad-rail, Swiss Army Knife AR builds. I think they look positively silly.

    I love the clean lines of the A1 with the triangle fore grip. Can these still be had anywhere?

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  2. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Yeah you can still easily buy the uppers or the parts.

    Why not go for the real original with even less lines? Colt SP-1 (top)

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  3. samuelm16

    samuelm16 se pdx Well-Known Member

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  4. eldbillbo

    eldbillbo clackamas New world samurai and a redneck none the less Bronze Supporter

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    The kits are all over the place get a kit, get a lower , get a semi FCG and there you have it.

    I am going to post one for sale pretty soon to make room in my safe. i just need to swop out the A2 receiver for a A1 and it will be identical to the pic you posted.
     
  5. madcratebuilder

    madcratebuilder Ardenwald, OR Well-Known Member

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    You can kit build the A1. I'm not sure if anybody builds a A1 currently. The old triangle hand guards are a DIY thing.

    This is a older Bushmaster in A1 config I changed out the hand guards, butt and grip to the early style A1.
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    This SBR is a old Colt A1 upper, I found a short set of the triangular hand guards for it.
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  6. Ironbar

    Ironbar Tigard, OR Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, by knowledge of the AR platform couldn't even fill a slim pamphlet. I wouldn't even BEGIN to know how to build one from parts. I'd be flying totally blind.
     
  7. snooopidydoo

    snooopidydoo Medford Oregon Active Member

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    Thats the best part!
    you would be amazed at how simple it is to build.
     
  8. samuelm16

    samuelm16 se pdx Well-Known Member

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    that sbr is delicous!
     
  9. Mutt

    Mutt Washington, Kitsap County Member

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    That style has been used for decades and works fine. But , however, I'm sure you want to have as accurate a rifle as possible. The problem with the old style AR's/M16's is that the handguards and attaching system are mounted to the barrel, along with the sling swivel. All these place stress on the barrel and play hell with accuracy.

    I know not everyone out there likes the new tacticool stuff and many really like the old nastolgic builds. But, If you want to get decent accuracy, I suggest using a free float handguard. You can get some plain jane free float handguards that will still look decent on the A1/A2 style builds.
     
  10. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what you mean by "old style". The standard AR, including military M4 still come with 2 piece non-floating handguards. The DCM competition guns have 2 piece handguards on them.

    Also it would make the OP's "I love the clean lines of the A1 with the triangle fore grip." look very funny with a round/railed/ect handguard.
     
  11. madcratebuilder

    madcratebuilder Ardenwald, OR Well-Known Member

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    Free floated hand guards are nice. I do have them on my precision AR's, but the accuracy difference is very minimal at best. The only scenario were it makes a noticeable difference is if you shoot with a sling and use a ungodly amount of sling tension. Shooting from bags or free hand without a sling you well see little or no difference.
     
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  12. orygun

    orygun West Linn Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I have to agree. We were talking about this very subject last night. While not as popular or as "tactical", I wholeheartedly agree with the OP. I've not yet taken the "AR plunge". I may not, but if I do I want a Colt SP-1 or something similar.
     
  13. bruzer

    bruzer Grants Pass, OR Well-Known Member

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    How much is one of these AR-15 A1 worth now a days?
    Mike
     
  14. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    What condition? What maker? What year?

    Original Colt SP-1's usually sell in excess of $1500 or you get an SGW in A1 configuration for under $750.
     
  15. Unka-Boo

    Unka-Boo Milwaukie Active Member

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    Where?

    Most the SP1s that I've seen sell lately have been a Grand or less....market's soft right now.
     
  16. bruzer

    bruzer Grants Pass, OR Well-Known Member

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    Used in great condition, Colt SP-1, I don't know the year. How many years did Colt make them with triangle hand guards?
    Mike
     
  17. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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  18. iomatic

    iomatic Portland Member

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    Which versions are pre/post ban, just out of curiosity? Is there a cutoff line for each model?
     
  19. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    It does not work that way. It is based on the serial number on the lower. There are too many brands to keep track of them all. I can build a "pre or post" ban of any version right now with the proper lower receiver.
     
  20. iomatic

    iomatic Portland Member

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    How about if we just narrow to Colt? Sorry for the slight threadjack.