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Today I stopped by my local gun store to fill out my DROS paperwork, pay transfer fees and start the clock on the mandatory 10-day waiting period on my recently purchased lower receiver. The owner informed me that I should ease up on buying more lowers, as this would put me on the CA DOJ radar- apparently if you build more than 4 AR's in one year, you are a gun manufacturer and need to file the necessary paperwork, pay the fees, etc. I also found out Ruger semi-auto rifles are also on the current CA ban list, so no SR-556 or SR-762's for me until we move out of CA.

It's this maze of laws, rat's nest of repetitive and ineffective rules, and paranoid attitude of government that is a farce at best- will a 10 day "cooling-off" period keep me from rash and deadly acts, considering I already have functional AR-15 that I've already put 300 rounds through? CA also charges you $25 every time you buy a firearm- Sacramento knows we spend hundreds of millions on firearms, ammunition, accessories, so of course they're always looking for ways to get a piece of that action. Proposition 63 seeks to make gun owners pay a $50 fee to register to buy ammo in the state of CA- not only will it monitor how much ammo you buy, but also know that you're buying ammo. This Big Brother approach to gun control is just another step towards Sacramento's goal of seizing our firearms- if they cannot seize them outright, they plan to make every aspect of owning a firearm a totally unpleasant and costly experience.

But all is not lost here- Jerry Brown and his bi-atch Kamala Harris plan on banning the bullet button, making anyone owning a sport rifle with "evil features" register them as an "assault rifle", which is already banned in CA in 2017. They thought that they had CA sport rifle owners cornered, but the inventor of the original bullet button has come up with a new mag release that only functions when you pull the rear pin and split your AR recievers. A new detent pin with a finger ring makes mag changes so much quicker, and once the upper and lower receivers CA law considers your rifle disassembled, so a mag can legally be switched out. Kamala heard about this and tried to block the manufacture of this new mag release, but she's already under threat of a major lawsuit by the BB inventor. Pending approval of the new mag release by the CA DOJ, this new release will make the magazine permanently attached to the rifle when assembled, and allow CA AR owners to avoid registering their ARs as "assault rifles". Nice.

I cannot wait to move out of CA- you Oregon gun owners better keep your wagons circled when the Socialist Democrat "Indians" start coming.

Geno
 
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Guard with jealous attention the AR-15 and such rifles. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.

:D
 
They are going to take your guns. Even if you hide them or deny having them they have essentially taken them away. You will need to ask your masters for permission to be grandfathered in.

Your constitution is being ignored.
50% of you voted for this and now your chickens have come home to roost.
You need to own your voting record.
You need to put your money and time to work trying to rectify this problem that you created.
You need to talk to all you friends and family about this problem because it is going to take you years to bring them back over from the dark side.

The presidents gave a speech to the UN general assemble today and said you need to give up some of your constitutional rights to the One World government he asked the UN to create.

I wish I was describing a new Tom Clancy novel but this is the real deal and you need to deal with it because you helped to create it. We cannot put this genie back in the bottle.
If I got your attention. If you are mad at me now. Good, I meant to wake you up.
Stop being nice to these politicians! Follow the law and resist them in every way you can.
It's going to get real!
 
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It's this maze of laws, rat's nest of repetitive and ineffective rules, and paranoid attitude of government that is a farce at best

No, it's not. The rules don't have to make sense to the peons, but only to the rulers. In this case it is simple: making arms-bearing as difficult as possible, without going to the point of confiscation. Anything that passes muster from the US Supreme Court. From their point of view, this policy makes sense. Rulers do not like armed peons, and for very good reasons.

The mistake people make is in thinking government works for us. It doesn't.

They are going to take your guns.

Yours, maybe. :rolleyes:
 
I'm waiting for the secret police to come and try and take them. No body armor is going to help them- I'll join the other Oath Keepers and make the message clear. And then we march on Washington DC.
 
New Jersey has made it so.
  • Anyone who owned an AR-15 or other assault rifle before May 1, 1990, can keep the weapon so long as they registered the weapon before May 1, 1990, and the state Attorney General's office determined it was used for target shooting.
Everybody else with an AR-15 was notified that their rifle had to be either taken out of the state or turned in to be destroyed (so they say anyway.)

Although Connecticut and New York are bad, as far as I know New Jersey is the worst case of an AW ban law.

So far.
What do you mean the worst case? That they had to be registered otherwise be sent out of state or turned in and destroyed? One can still get an AR in NJ with a pistol grip and detachable magazine (no more than 15 rounds). Granted you can't have a bayonet lug, muzzle brake must be fixed, can't have a barrel that can accommodate a grenade launcher, and a stock must be fixed (so adjustable stocks being for looks only is a valid point to make in NJ). That said, ain't no way anyone could convince me to ever wanna go back there.

A new AWB.... will be about as effective as the Volstead Act. aka Prohibition.
Depends on the perspective. I'm sure a politician who wants to make money off of selling the hypothetical illegal guns to criminals would find it very effective. Criminals find a way to get the guns, politicians find a way to make money, then there's more reason to go after even more guns. Thus even more guns they can sell to criminals, thus more money. But you know, "think of the children."
 
No, it's not. The rules don't have to make sense to the peons, but only to the rulers.

ZACKLY what happened here, friends.

I can purchase and own a rifled rifled firearm up to 20mm calibre [yes, really].

I can purchase and own a smooth-bore gun with a barrel longer than 24", and up to 2" calibre on my shotgun permit. These are punt guns, of course.

I can buy and own a full-size cannon, with a cannon permit, at least. And shoot them, too, on suitable pieces of land, with live shot.

But I cannot legally buy any airsoft toy gun that uses batteries or Freon gas to shoot a 6mm diameter plastic ball.

So, I can have a full-metal, full-size exact replication of a handgun, carbine or rifle that shoots METAL BBs at 400-500 fps, or even .177 pellets, driven by Co2, at about 4ft lbs m/e.

But not something that is a full-metal, full-size exact replication of a handgun, carbine or rifle that shoots plastic balls at 1 ft lb m/e.

That makes sense, right? :O

tac
 
I just read something on another gun forum. Ya know how we refer to things as "pre-ban", or " pre-Clinton", or that kinda "pre-XXX" stuff. Well, some people are already making reference to "pre-Hillary" stuff.
E-mails, or not... Hillary is in, and we gotta prepare for the anti-gun agenda.
 

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