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I hear ya. Shooting subsonic ammo thru a long barrel is pretty quiet as it is.I have never seen any use for suppressors, and having one on a .22 just seems ludicrous.
I hear ya. Shooting subsonic ammo thru a long barrel is pretty quiet as it is.
I got my first can as a pinned and welded on an AR upper, to avoid a second stamp for the SBR. I like it a lot. Not technically an integral but it has most of the characteristics of one. For my next one I'm considering one of the 10/22 integrated barrels but I want one in a 1:9 twist to shoot the 60 gr subsonics from.The idea of a bolt action .22LR with an integral suppressor has me enamored as of late...so I've stumbled into CZ's integral suppressor. I absolutely loved my 457 while I had it, so it's a compelling purchase. But, it'd also be my first suppressor. What are your thoughts of this vs a can or around integral suppressors in general? Given that a Form 4 is what, 10 months now? I'm looking to be a bit more sure of this purchase.
Can you elaborate why? I shoot subsonic just fine in my AR - feels like some important caveats might apply?Aside from cleaning a rimfire suppressor (which is an issue, regardless of what you buy), using an integrally suppressed barrel on a semiautomatic firearm pretty much requires the use of high velocity ammunition, to ensure proper cycling of the action.
I stand by my previous statement.
Can you elaborate why? I shoot subsonic just fine in my AR - feels like some important caveats might apply?
I have never seen any use for suppressors, and having one on a .22 just seems ludicrous.
I stand by my previous statement.
I have yet find a SS round that functions reliably in my AR
I did find that CCI SV stays subsonic and functions my gun, but now there is none to be found, at least not at a price I am willing to pay. Yet a lot of the SS I have tried that does not work in my AR, works fine in my 10/22's.
I want a faster twist to shoot subsonic 22lr anyway, so I see little advantage in having a detachable.For a rifle, I don't see the point of an integral suppressor. Detachable 22lr cans are so quite that the integral offers limited or no benefit over a detachable.
If you're talking a gas operated (normal) AR and not a rimfire, maybe your gassing is off?
Also, I don't see what that has to do with a normal silencer as opposed to an integrated one? I would expect the integrated one to work better, all things equal, since the gun doesn't have to concern itself with working with and without?
The 60gr cycles fine in every 22 I've tried it in including multiple 10/22 rifles, but as I noted, it needs a faster twist to really work right. Standard weight subsonic in something that's 'naturally' supersonic is definitionally a light load; if the gun won't cycle with a light load I still don't see what having or lacking a can on it would change.
OK, so you stated that shooting subsonic 22lr from a gun with an integral silencer was an iffy proposition. I don't see what having (1) a silencer and (2) whether or not it's integrated has to do with light loads being iffy in a 22lr semi-auto.This whole thread has been about .22's. I have yet to see a gas operated .22.
I have zero interest in shooting std-weight 22lr subsonic ammo, and very little interest in shooting regular high velocity 22lr through a silencer. Given that, my only use for a rimfire silencer would be for shooting out of a dedicated 22lr with a fast twist or a 5.56 AR that's running one of those rimfire conversion deals.@Dinglenutz the only 22lr subsonic ammo I have heard of folks using a different twist than 1 in 16 for is the Aguila 60gr ammo. Also, what does twist rate have to do with detachable vs. integral?
OK, so you stated that shooting subsonic 22lr from a gun with an integral silencer was an iffy proposition. I don't see what having (1) a silencer and (2) whether or not it's integrated has to do with light loads being iffy in a 22lr semi-auto.
I'd say that shooting light loads from a firearm that depends on recoil momentum to cycle is an iffy proposition silencer or not, integrated or not?