What disappears first ?

[Scrammer]

Can you add to this list ?
Don't add large ticket items, please, trucks, planes, tanks, etc...

100 Items To Disappear
First In A Panic
By Joseph Almond
5-21-6

#1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy.. target of thieves; maintenance, etc.)
#2. Water Filters/Purifiers (Shipping delays increasing.)
#3. Portable Toilets (Increasing in price every two months.)
#4. Seasoned Firewood (About $100 per cord; wood takes 6 - 12 mos. to become dried, for home uses.)
#5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
#6. Coleman Fuel (URGENT $2.69-$3.99/gal. Impossible to stockpile too much.)
#7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots
#8. Hand-Can openers & hand egg beaters, whisks (Life savers!)
#9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugars
#10. Rice - Beans - Wheat (White rice is now $12.95
- 50# bag. Sam's Club, stock depleted often.)
#11. Vegetable oil (for cooking) (Without it food burns/must be boiled, etc.)
#12. Charcoal & Lighter fluid (Will become scarce suddenly.)
#13. Water containers (Urgent Item to obtain. An size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY)
#14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won't heat a room.)
#15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
#16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur by September, 1999.)
#17. Michael Hyatt's Y2K Survival Guide (BEST single y2k handbook for sound advice/tips.)
#18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
#19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula/ointments/aspirin, etc
#20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
#21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
#22. Vitamins (Critical, due 10 Y2K-forced daily canned food diets.)
#23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item.)
#24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products
#25. Thermal underwear (Tops and bottoms)
#26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets & Wedges (also, honing oil)
#27. Aluminum foil Reg. & Hvy. Duty (Great Cooking & Barter item)
#28. Gasoline containers (Plastic or Metal)
#29. Garbage bags (Impossible to have too many.)
#30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, paper towels
#31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake liquid every 3 to 4 months.)
#32. Garden seeds (Non-hybrid) (A MUST)
#33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
#34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit: 1(800) 835-3278
#35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
#36. Fire extinguishers (or.. large box of Baking soda in every room...)
#37. First aid kits
#38. Batteries (all sizes... buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
#39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
#40. BIG DOGS (and plenty of dog food)
#41. Flour, yeast & salt
#42. Matches (3 box/$1 .44 at WalMart: "Strike Anywhere" preferred. Boxed, wooden matches will go first.)
#43. Writing paper/pads/pencils/solar calculators
#44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime)
#45. Work boots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
#46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
#47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (Jot down ideas, feelings, experiences: Historic times!)
#48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water transporting - if with wheels)
#49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
#50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
#51. Fishing supplies/tools
#52. Mosquito coils/repellent sprays/creams
#53. Duct tape
#54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
#55. Candles
#56. Laundry detergent (Liquid)
#57. Backpacks & Duffle bags
#58. Garden tools & supplies
#59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
#60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
#61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
#62. Canning supplies (Jars/lids/wax)
#63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
#64. Bicycles... Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc.
#65. Sleeping bags & blankets/pillows/mats
#66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
#67. Board Games Cards, Dice
#68. d-Con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
#69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
#70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks...)
#71. Baby Wipes, diapers, tampons, oils, waterless & Anti-bacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
#72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
#73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
#74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
#75. Soysauce, vinegar, boullions/gravy/soup base
#76. Reading glasses
#77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
#78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
#79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
#80. BSA - New 1998 - Boy Scout Handbook (also, Leader's Catalog)
#81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
#82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
#83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
#84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
#85. Lumber (all types)
#86. Wagons & carts (for transport to & from open Flea markets)
#87. Cots & Inflatable mattresses (for extra guests)
#88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
#89. Lantern Hangers
#90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws, nuts & bolts
#91. Teas
#92. Coffee
#93. Cigarettes
#94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc.)
#95. Paraffin wax
#96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
#97. Chewing gum/candies
#98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
#99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
#100. Goats/chickens

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[yotehunter]

meat grinder? gas mask? if by ocean maybe scuba gear?

 

[Bon Sauvage]

Common sense, pity and fear of God.

 

[SSG]

First...

- Your power is turned off
- Then your water is turned off
- You go to the banks, closed by Govt..to stop the rush...
- ATMs shut down
- Cell Phones/Internet shut off
- The last three gun stores in town, have a Humvee infront of them.

Inside of two weeks, when everyone has eaten all the food in thier homes, drank all the free standing water that they can find, they will go to the community food lines...

At the front of the line is a table, with a Marine and his laptop...behind him is a food pile, either side a chain gun mounted Humvee keeping order...

When you get up front, you hand him your ID, and he informs you of all the guns that you bought in the last 30 years.....when you turn those in...you will get food...in the mean time come over here...IDs are not valid anymore, and they will now insert a microchip in you...removal or resistance to this chip means, you cannot have food for services...

Have a nice day.

 

[56kninja]

First...

- Your power is turned off
- Then your water is turned off
- You go to the banks, closed by Govt..to stop the rush...
- ATMs shut down
- Cell Phones/Internet shut off
- The last three gun stores in town, have a Humvee infront of them.

Inside of two weeks, when everyone has eaten all the food in thier homes, drank all the free standing water that they can find, they will go to the community food lines...

At the front of the line is a table, with a Marine and his laptop...behind him is a food pile, either side a chain gun mounted Humvee keeping order...

When you get up front, you hand him your ID, and he informs you of all the guns that you bought in the last 30 years.....when you turn those in...you will get food...in the mean time come over here...IDs are not valid anymore, and they will now insert a microchip in you...removal or resistance to this chip means, you cannot have food for services...

Have a nice day.

Because that's totally not a batbubblegum crazy interpretation of the future AT ALL. And you know, my brothers a Marine. You know what he signed up for ? To microchip civilians and take their guns.

But with the sarcasm off, the government doesn't need your guns, they probably don't want them either. If they wanted to kill you they have hundreds of ways and thousands of soldiers to do so, and your AR-15 and 10-15 other people like you wouldn't do much for you if the man was out to kill you.

 

[Riot]

Because that's totally not a batbubblegum crazy interpretation of the future AT ALL. And you know, my brothers a Marine. You know what he signed up for ? To microchip civilians and take their guns.

But with the sarcasm off, the government doesn't need your guns, they probably don't want them either. If they wanted to kill you they have hundreds of ways and thousands of soldiers to do so, and your AR-15 and 10-15 other people like you wouldn't do much for you if the man was out to kill you.

So you think your brother would rather be asked to kill all armed US citizens than to monitor the rationing of food and resources?

Kinda catch-22 if you ask me. The military will be used to control the public, there is no doubt about that. When, how and where is up for debate.

 

[56kninja]

So you think your brother would rather be asked to kill all armed US citizens than to monitor the rationing of food and resources?

Kinda catch-22 if you ask me. The military will be used to control the public, there is no doubt about that. When, how and where is up for debate.

Nope, rather I was mocking the notion that the military is going to completely fold and kill citizens.

But I find notions like this mostly crazy. There was a time when I believed these things could happen. However people kept saying "It'll happen this date" never happened, they kept saying it, and it still has not happened. I think these are over paranoid conspiracy theories brought to you by the same people that think George Bush is a clone and that Obama is the anti-christ.

 

[SSG]

BUDs, Boot camp, etc is designed to weed out those that will take orders or not...not find rocket scientists and Olympic athletes...

I have no doubt that a scared to death 18 year old kid will do exactly what HQ tells them to do...

Especially if he is told your a trouble maker, psycho, a terrorist etc by the powers that be....

 

[56kninja]

BUDs, Boot camp, etc is designed to weed out those that will take orders or not...not find rocket scientists and Olympic athletes...

I have no doubt that a scared to death 18 year old kid will do exactly what HQ tells them to do...

Especially if he is told your a trouble maker, psycho, a terrorist etc by the powers that be....

I think you're letting stereotypes get to you. The military has a very big group of people. Some of them even read conspiracy sites and think how you do.

It's not an impossibility of happening, however it would probably take a lot more than "these people are terrorists" to start turning them into mass killers. It would probably take a long campaign of brainwashing them for it to reach that state much like it happened in Germany 70-80 years ago.

 

[jordanvraptor]

When I was in New Orleans after Katrina, our guard unit basically said pound sand when we were asked to help the NOPD take guns or forcibly remove people from their homes. When the NOPD found out we would only provide outer cordon security and they would have to go in themselves, it didn't happen. We only evacuated people if they wanted to leave. Most did after their supplies ran out but they weren't forced, in fact they were bribed with those debit card thingies that FEMA handed out.

That's a good list, well thought out. I think lumber might be a little higher up on the list though because people will want to board up their homes, shops, etc to make them easier to defend.

 

[Scrammer]

I think this thread has gone a wee bit off course.

 

[pdx lefty]

I think this thread has gone a wee bit off course.

+1

 

[Ragingpit]

military and police will follow orders... and do what ever keeps them and their familys feed.

 

[elsullo]

Around 1979 Johnny Carson (you know, the guy on the Tonight Show BEFORE Jay Leno took over?) was joking about the then-current gasoline shortage. He made a wisecrack that soon there was going to be a shortage of TOILET PAPER. Everybody laughed. Then scowled.

This is a true story! By morning all retail store shelves were cleaned out of toilet paper. By noon all wholesale supply warehouses were empty of toilet paper supplies. By night most public restrooms had been pilfered of toilet paper. It took a long week of people hoarding toilet paper before everyone accepted that it had all been a joke.

So, we can all learn from this little bit of history. Fortunately, most people don't know that there will soon be a shortage of cigarettes and beer................elsullo

 

[CaughtSteelin]

I almost think water would be the first.

Back a few months ago when SW PDX had the E-Coli thing (or something like that) in the drinking water. Within in a matter of no time all the water at the stores in a semi-big surrounding area was cleaned out.

So unless you had some storage of it or were able to boil the water, you were SOL.

Then food to follow...

 

[Redcap]

Common sense, pity and fear of God.

The latter two don't even come into the equation.

 

[Redcap]

I almost think water would be the first.

Back a few months ago when SW PDX had the E-Coli thing (or something like that) in the drinking water. Within in a matter of no time all the water at the stores in a semi-big surrounding area was cleaned out.

So unless you had some storage of it or were able to boil the water, you were SOL.

Then food to follow...

Water? Really? Do you have any idea how easy it is to access drinkable water?

 

[Riot]

Water? Really? Do you have any idea how easy it is to access drinkable water?

Do you have any idea how many people don't realize that all you have to do is boil it?

Survival is a dying skill.

 

[Gunner3456]

Two drops in a quart, or one teaspoon in five gallons is the formula for putting household bleach into drinking water to sterilize (chlorinate) it. Stir and let settle for about an hour.

As for easy to access drinking water, not everyone here lives in an area with lots of rainfall or water. Those "bugging in" to their homes for security especially in a large town might find water scarce after they empty their hot water heater, etc.

If roving gangs of looters are around, you don't just go out and forage, leaving your home and your family.

I don't see water itself high up on that list for some reason, yet it's one of the things which we can least do without, and for the shortest amount of time.

 

[Wheeler44]

A good measure;

Heat sterilization
Boiling water is the preferred method of purification because disease-causing microorganisms cannot survive the intense heat. Bring water to a rolling boil for 10 minutes. Pour the water back and forth from one clean container to another to improve the taste. Adding a pinch of salt could also help.

Chemical sterilization
In some situations, boiling may not be an option. The alternative is to treat the water chemically. Plain household chlorine bleach may be used. Be sure the label states that hypochlorite is the only active ingredient. Bleach containing soap or fragrances is not acceptable. With an eye dropper, add 8 drops of bleach per litre of water (16 if the water is cloudy), stir and let stand. After 30 minutes the water should taste and smell of chlorine. At this time it can be used. If the taste and smell (and appearance in the case of cloudy water) has not changed, add another dose and let stand. If after one half hour the water does not have a chlorine smell, do not use it.

from this site;http://vancouver.ca/emerg/prepyourself/locatingsafewater.htm

Always make sure that you can smell and taste the chlorine before use......If there is no residual, there are more potential toxins present....If you are offended by the taste or smell of chlorine, leaving it in an open container will evaporate the chlorine. Heating it will speed the process of evaporation.....

It is possible that water is contaminated more than simple sterilization processes can handle...The residual in bleach is a good way to tell...

Finally; a simple charcoal filter will remove many of the man made pollutants (herbicides, pesticides and petroleum products, etc) and "refreshen" the taste...