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Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Just Jim, May 13, 2015.

  1. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Thinking ahead as everyone should, what will be the consequences of 941? It's passage tells you what about your corrupt government? What will they do with the information in the gun sale? When they know you have ten guns will they call an emergency and make you buy a safe? Will they set a limit on the number of guns you can have when guns are stolen and used in a crime?

    So it seems a lot of guys here are not willing to stop this before it snowballs us into hell. If you are not willing to put in some effort here then figure out you will have to live in fear the rest of your lives hiding your guns. It's just like terrorism when you live in fear of what they do. You really should fight back.o_O

    This is far bigger than just registration.o_Oo_O
     
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  2. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    941 will tell them how many guns are in your house and who controls them. Will there be a limit set on the number you can own?
     
  3. Koda

    Koda Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    Just Jim, the next step will be prohibition.
     
  4. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Think about it.

    Tons of people who have never intentionally broken a Law in their lives have been CHOOSING to buy guns in the used market over new and been paying at or near the new price for some time.
    These are regular law abiding hard working every day Joes. Why have they been doing this?

    Obviously they want a gun that is not recorded somewhere as being associated with them.

    Why have they been doing this?

    They feel that the Government restrictions will get to a point where they will confiscate certain guns or all guns. They just don't want the Government knowing what they have in the way of guns.

    They just don't trust the Government and have made a choice to not comply is what's going on.

    In Katrina they were confiscating weapons. They proved they can't be trusted!
     
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  5. tiggers97

    tiggers97 United States Well-Known Member

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    You are right, it is not practical to use seal-team 6 and the mission impossible crew flying in on Sr71's to accomplish anything. It will not be the iron battering ram at the door, but rather the velvet glove delivering a paper letter.

    Here's what about 16 legislatures signed onto in Oregon in 2013: HB3200 would have first required you to register your firearms (the bill allowed you to keep one semi-auto) to make it easier to know what you have (not everything is in the system). Then you had 30-90 days (I don't remember which) to destroy, transport them out of the state, sell them to a gun-store, or turn them into police. Just about everything EXCEPT a military maneuver. They were going to be looking for law-abiding to follow governments commands and do the work for them. No need to try and take everything at once. They know the answer to the question "how do you eat an elephant", and gun ownership is a very big elephant in this country.

    Look to NY and CT as to why people are afraid this is just one piece of the machine.
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/06/new-york-city-confiscating-rifles-and-shotguns/
    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...ns-new-york-sending-gun-confiscation-notices/
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/1...relinquish-or-destroy-banned-assault-weapons/
    http://truthinmedia.com/connecticut-sends-letter-to-unregistered-gun-owners-to-surrender-firearms/
     
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  6. forefathersrback

    forefathersrback Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Indeed OLDNEWBIE, Katrina should have been a lesson for all of us.
     
  7. winchester270

    winchester270 Lafayette Active Member

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    A short video to raise your blood pressure a little
    and there are several other more lengthy videos from NRA also if you choose to look them up
     
  8. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    I try to not think in a box. You won't have to use force if you know what someone owns. All the guns bought before this law could have been sold many times over in private sales with no record. Once the system is in place they will have on record both the gun and the owner. Once they know who the gun and owner is they can use any number of ways to make you turn them in. They will know what you have by record and demand you turn it in under force of law.

    That force may be anything from stopping your bank account ( and they know every penny in it) to taking away your job. They won't even fire a shot, they will know everything about you so you can't run or hide and even have your picture so they make sure when they cancel your passport they have the right person.

    If they don't know you have it then they can't demand it. They won't go door to door, you will walk in and give it to them.o_O
     
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    winchester270 Lafayette Active Member

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    J-J I think that is a much more likely route because I do believe most military personnel would not comply with confiscation orders. But bankers and other govt official sure as Hell would
     
  10. winchester270

    winchester270 Lafayette Active Member

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    Govt gives them a little cash incentive and its a done deal
     
  11. forefathersrback

    forefathersrback Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    winchester270, Thanks for sharing. You only raised my blood pressure ALOTTTTTTTTT!
     
  12. winchester270

    winchester270 Lafayette Active Member

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    I believe they have another couple vids that go on for about an hour. I already watched those last year but they were informative and infuriating
     
  13. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Just realize every gun bought under sb941 can be collected from the owner whenever they want because they know you have it. They can demand it and not pay you anything by using another emergency power clause. It's not a stretch guys, these people will do anything they want and not be held accountable.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Just jim

    LOL
    You pose more questions than my 10 grandchildren :D
     
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    10010110 Forest Grove region Active Member

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    The Oregon State Police, and law, say they don't keep background checks past X days (I think X is 7?)
    The Federal government says they don't keep records past some time frame.
    Either they are telling the truth and the worry about registration is all for nothing, or they are lying.
    I think there is overwhelming data to indicate the latter is correct.


     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    There was a story a few years back where they provided data to the ATF for firearms that they were supposed to havew destroyed years earlier. They don't destroy anything and if they put on a show that they do you better believe they have made copies.
    If anyone can find that story, please put it here.
     
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  17. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Oh, they'll be held accountable... believe it. o_O
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    edison bulb Portland, OR Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully the consequence will be more readers of this forum and elsewhere to donate more money to OFF and the NRA.
     
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  20. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if you guys see the future, they tell you to turn in your guns or they stop you bank account, pension,healthcare, utilities and divers lic. If they don't know you have them then they can't demand them. Don't buy any guns registered under the new system and they will have no proof you own a gun.

    They won't come to your house cause it would start a civil war. But they can prove you own a gun if it's registered and then you will bring it in to them.