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Washington state I 594

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Hijeffrey95, Jan 17, 2015.

  1. Hijeffrey95

    Hijeffrey95 Bellevue, WA Member

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    As of now, can I still do a private transfer without an FFL? I heard that it was only the initiative that passed, they still have to draft the law and set the parameters, get input from enforcement agencies, then put it to governor to sign it. Is that true or do I gave to go through an FFL for private transfers from now on?
     
  2. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    That would be nice but according to a pop up on this site its against the law now and my understanding is that it started on December 4th or so.
    you can gift the gun to a someone without the taxes involved and there's a site that does ffl for 10 bucks (idk what it is called someone does.) or a few spots in Vancouver are 20 or less.
     
  3. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    Or I should have said the law Is active and dumb as hell
     
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  4. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    The One option that you all still have is to stand and I mean most of the 800K that voted against it and Nullify the entire thing. But that won't happen for obvious reasons :( :mad:
    Lack of juevos and apathy.
     
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  5. YoungBlood

    YoungBlood SW Washington Active Member

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    Stand where?;)
     
  6. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    With Dignity............
     
  7. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    You mean, is it already listed in the active WA laws???? Yes, http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41

    RCW 9.41.113
    Firearm sales or transfers—Background checks—Requirements—Exceptions.
    (1) All firearm sales or transfers, in whole or part in this state including without limitation a sale or transfer where either the purchaser or seller or transferee or transferor is in Washington, shall be subject to background checks unless specifically exempted by state or federal law. The background check requirement applies to all sales or transfers including, but not limited to, sales and transfers through a licensed dealer, at gun shows, online, and between unlicensed persons.
    (2) No person shall sell or transfer a firearm unless:
    (a) The person is a licensed dealer;
    (b) The purchaser or transferee is a licensed dealer; or
    (c) The requirements of subsection (3) of this section are met.
    (3) Where neither party to a prospective firearms transaction is a licensed dealer, the parties to the transaction shall complete the sale or transfer through a licensed dealer as follows:
    (a) The seller or transferor shall deliver the firearm to a licensed dealer to process the sale or transfer as if it is selling or transferring the firearm from its inventory to the purchaser or transferee, except that the unlicensed seller or transferor may remove the firearm from the business premises of the licensed dealer while the background check is being conducted. If the seller or transferor removes the firearm from the business premises of the licensed dealer while the background check is being conducted, the purchaser or transferee and the seller or transferor shall return to the business premises of the licensed dealer and the seller or transferor shall again deliver the firearm to the licensed dealer prior to completing the sale or transfer.
    (b) Except as provided in (a) of this subsection, the licensed dealer shall comply with all requirements of federal and state law that would apply if the licensed dealer were selling or transferring the firearm from its inventory to the purchaser or transferee, including but not limited to conducting a background check on the prospective purchaser or transferee in accordance with federal and state law requirements and fulfilling all federal and state recordkeeping requirements.
    (c) The purchaser or transferee must complete, sign, and submit all federal, state, and local forms necessary to process the required background check to the licensed dealer conducting the background check.
    (d) If the results of the background check indicate that the purchaser or transferee is ineligible to possess a firearm, then the licensed dealer shall return the firearm to the seller or transferor.
    (e) The licensed dealer may charge a fee that reflects the fair market value of the administrative costs and efforts incurred by the licensed dealer for facilitating the sale or transfer of the firearm.
    (4) This section does not apply to:
    (a) A transfer between immediate family members, which for this subsection shall be limited to spouses, domestic partners, parents, children, siblings, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles, that is a bona fide gift;
    (b) The sale or transfer of an antique firearm;
    (c) A temporary transfer of possession of a firearm if such transfer is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to the person to whom the firearm is transferred if:
    (i) The temporary transfer only lasts as long as immediately necessary to prevent such imminent death or great bodily harm; and
    (ii) The person to whom the firearm is transferred is not prohibited from possessing firearms under state or federal law;
    (d) Any law enforcement or corrections agency and, to the extent the person is acting within the course and scope of his or her employment or official duties, any law enforcement or corrections officer, United States marshal, member of the armed forces of the United States or the national guard, or federal official;
    (e) A federally licensed gunsmith who receives a firearm solely for the purposes of service or repair, or the return of the firearm to its owner by the federally licensed gunsmith;
    (f) The temporary transfer of a firearm (i) between spouses or domestic partners; (ii) if the temporary transfer occurs, and the firearm is kept at all times, at an established shooting range authorized by the governing body of the jurisdiction in which such range is located; (iii) if the temporary transfer occurs and the transferee's possession of the firearm is exclusively at a lawful organized competition involving the use of a firearm, or while participating in or practicing for a performance by an organized group that uses firearms as a part of the performance; (iv) to a person who is under eighteen years of age for lawful hunting, sporting, or educational purposes while under the direct supervision and control of a responsible adult who is not prohibited from possessing firearms; or (v) while hunting if the hunting is legal in all places where the person to whom the firearm is transferred possesses the firearm and the person to whom the firearm is transferred has completed all training and holds all licenses or permits required for such hunting, provided that any temporary transfer allowed by this subsection is permitted only if the person to whom the firearm is transferred is not prohibited from possessing firearms under state or federal law; or
    (g) A person who (i) acquired a firearm other than a pistol by operation of law upon the death of the former owner of the firearm or (ii) acquired a pistol by operation of law upon the death of the former owner of the pistol within the preceding sixty days. At the end of the sixty-day period, the person must either have lawfully transferred the pistol or must have contacted the department of licensing to notify the department that he or she has possession of the pistol and intends to retain possession of the pistol, in compliance with all federal and state laws.
    [2015 c 1 § 3 (Initiative Measure No. 594, approved November 4, 2014).]
     
  8. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    So I've been curious about this:

    (iii) if the temporary transfer occurs and the transferee's possession of the firearm is exclusively at a lawful organized competition involving the use of a firearm,

    What constitutes a "lawful organized competition"?
     
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  9. Hijeffrey95

    Hijeffrey95 Bellevue, WA Member

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    Is there a wait time for handguns under private transfer?
     
  10. 223to45

    223to45 Whatcom Active Member

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    Huh???

    Initiative that passes is law. There is no drafting the law , 594 is the law.
     
  11. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    Wait time 10 days u less you have your cpl... My magic 8 ball says many more people will acquire a cpl soon.
     
  12. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    Why'd you have to post this now I'm depressed
     
  13. Kid@Heart

    Kid@Heart Vancouver, USA Cynic Lifetime Supporter Diamond Supporter

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    Dude,

    You really need to try to keep up...