Washington State HB 1588 Requiring universal background checks for firearms transfers

[duane black]

I believe number 1 is wrong. CPL holders still have to have background done.

Correct. No " cooling off period " for handgun purchases if you have a CPL, otherwise great letter. I have been writing our reps weekly since sandy hook.

 

[Kable]

Crap I was wondering about that but in the nrs-ila they say you don't
NRA-ILA | Washington: Your Immediate Action is Needed to Defeat Numerous Anti-Gun Bills

 

[Kable]

Looks like if CPL was issued on or after 7/22/11 it's exempt from NICS
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[edogg]

While your template letter is well thought out, I went for a much simpler approach. Keeping it short and sweet will increase the likelihood that they will actually read it. I know that when I receive an email at work, a short paragraph or two with a good headline is an email that I'll read right away.

Here's what I sent Mary Helen Roberts (I live in her district).

Dear Hon. Roberts,

As a constituent of your district, I'd like to voice my opposition to HB 1588, 1676, 1703, and 5625.

While I understand the good intentions, none of these added laws will do anything to curtail violence and will have many unintended side-effects. Please instead focus on enforcing existing laws which prevent felons from owning weapons and unauthorized children from accessing them by spending your efforts increasing law enforcement availability. In other words, more police officers on patrol and increased responsible citizen firearm ownership would be more helpful to reduce crime.

 

[wolfcreek]

Looks like if CPL was issued on or after 7/22/11 it's exempt from NICS
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Very interesting. I had no idea of this. I wonder if it is possible to apply for a new CPL to get the newer issue date?

 

[HuckFin]

Looks like if CPL was issued on or after 7/22/11 it's exempt from NICS
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Really?..I thought I read in the W.A.C newsletter that the CPL exemption from the NICS background check didn't pass.

 

[duane black]

Looks like if CPL was issued on or after 7/22/11 it's exempt from NICS
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I have a CPL after that date and have bought 2 handguns and was ran in the NIC system both times. I listened to them call it in as I stood there. 2 different stores, 2 different cities. Not trying to argue, just learn.

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[humdrum]

I have a CPL after that date and have bought 2 handguns and was ran in the NIC system both times. I listened to them call it in as I stood there. 2 different stores, 2 different cities. Not trying to argue, just learn.

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Same here; A CPL doesn't mean you can forego a NICS, but it does mean you can take it home that day.

 

[Kable]

Yeah after further digging it looks like we now follow the same federal requirements for background checks with the CPL's but it also requires that the state pass a bill for it to become effective and I can't find a bill for it so I don't think it went through

 

[CZTHOR]

SB 5625 - 2013-14

Requiring universal background checks for firearms transfers.

Also introduced this week is Senate Bill 5625, by state Senator Adam Kline (D-37). SB 5625 is a companion measure to HB 1588. This bill has been referred to the Senate Law and Justice Committee.


S-1046.1 _____________________________________________
SENATE BILL 5625
_____________________________________________
State of Washington 63rd Legislature 2013 Regular Session
By Senators Kline, Tom, Darneille, Litzow, Kohl-Welles, Chase, Frockt,
and Mullet
Read first time 02/06/13. Referred to Committee on Law & Justice.
1 AN ACT Relating to requiring universal background checks for
2 firearms transfers; amending RCW 9.41.080; creating a new section; and
3 prescribing penalties.
4 BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON:
5 NEW SECTION. Sec. 1. The legislature finds that there is broad
6 consensus that certain people, such as felons, minors, and
7 involuntarily committed persons, should not be eligible to possess
8 firearms for public safety reasons. Background checks are an effective
9 and easy mechanism to ensure that firearms are not sold to those who
10 are prohibited from possessing them. However, because background check
11 requirements apply only to transfers by licensed firearms dealers, many
12 firearms are currently sold without a background check, allowing felons
13 and other ineligible persons to gain access to them. The legislature
14 intends by this act to strengthen our background check system by
15 broadening the requirement for a background check to apply to all
16 firearms sales in the state.
17 Sec. 2. RCW 9.41.080 and 1994 sp.s. c 7 s 409 are each amended to
18 read as follows:
p. 1 SB 5625
1 (1) No person may deliver a firearm to any person whom he or she
2 has reasonable cause to believe is ineligible under ((RCW 9.41.040))
3 state or federal law to possess a firearm. Any person violating this
4 ((section)) subsection is guilty of a class C felony, punishable under
5 chapter 9A.20 RCW.
6 (2)(a) No unlicensed person may sell a firearm to another
7 unlicensed person unless the purchaser has undergone a background check
8 in accordance with the provisions of this subsection (2) and the
9 purchaser is not ineligible to possess a firearm under state or federal
10 law.
11 (b) A seller of a firearm to an unlicensed person shall request a
12 background check of the purchaser or transferee from a dealer or from
13 the chief of police or the sheriff of the jurisdiction in which the
14 seller or the purchaser resides. The background check shall include a
15 check of the national criminal instant background check system.
16 (c) The purchaser must complete an application to transfer a
17 firearm. The application shall be provided to the dealer or the chief
18 of police or sheriff conducting the background check.
19 (d) The department of licensing shall create and make available an
20 application to transfer a firearm for use by unlicensed persons engaged
21 in the sale or purchase of a firearm. The application shall include
22 the information required under RCW 9.41.090 for an application to
23 purchase a pistol from a dealer, and any other information the
24 department of licensing determines is appropriate.
25 (e) A dealer or a chief of police or sheriff who conducts a
26 background check for an unlicensed person under this subsection (2)
27 must indicate on the application whether the purchaser is eligible or
28 ineligible to possess a firearm under state and federal law based on
29 the results of the background check. A dealer or a chief of police or
30 sheriff may charge a fee for conducting the background check in an
31 amount not to exceed twenty dollars, plus any charges imposed by the
32 federal bureau of investigation.
33 (f) A person who sells a firearm to an unlicensed person in
34 violation of this subsection (2) is guilty of a gross misdemeanor
35 punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.
36 (g) For the purposes of this subsection (2), "unlicensed person"
37 means any person who is not licensed as a dealer under this chapter.
SB 5625 p. 2
1 (h) This subsection (2) does not apply to the sale of an antique
2 firearm.
3 (i) This subsection (2) does not apply to, and is not intended to
4 alter the requirements of this chapter that apply to, the sale of a
5 firearm by a dealer licensed under this chapter.
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Please contact your state Senator TODAY and express your opposition to this onerous bill.

House Judiciary Committee:
Representative Jamie Pedersen (D-43), Chairman
(360) 786-7826
[email protected]
Representative Drew Hansen (D-23), Vice Chairman
(360) 786-7842
[email protected]
Representative Jay Rodne (R-5)
(360) 786-7852
[email protected]
Representative Steve O'Ban (R-28)
(360) 786-7890
[email protected]
Representative Roger Goodman (D-45)
(360) 786-7878
[email protected]
Representative Mike Hope (R-44)
(360) 786-7892
[email protected]
Representative Laurie Jinkins (D-27)
(360) 786-7930
[email protected]
Representative Steve Kirby (D-29)
(360) 786-7996
[email protected]
Representative Brad Klippert (R-8)
(360) 786-7882
[email protected]
Representative Terry Nealey (R-16)
(360) 786-7828
[email protected]
Representative Tina Orwall (D-33)
(360) 786-7834
[email protected]

Representative Mary Helen Roberts (D-21)
(360) 786-7950
[email protected]

Representative Matt Shea (R-4)
(360) 786-7984
[email protected]

 

[deen_ad]

Great, just add more duties to the already understaffed police! They can't handle the load now and they want to add more paperwork to it?

They can't stop illegal drug sales now, what is adding this going to do?

 

[pchewn]

19 (d) The department of licensing shall create and make available an
20 application to transfer a firearm for use by unlicensed persons engaged
21 in the sale or purchase of a firearm. The application shall include
22 the information required under RCW 9.41.090 for an application to
23 purchase a pistol from a dealer, and any other information the
24 department of licensing determines is appropriate.

DANGER! WARNING! The application can contain whatever they want! (Information on purchaser, information on seller, information on each gun ......). The application can be constructed to ask about anything at all -- so they can add reasons to deny the application in the future.

BAD NEWS. Among the many other things wrong with this proposed law is the ambiguous application form and the power it gives others to create barriers for sales, or the power to gather more and more information.

 

[Kable]

DANGER! WARNING! The application can contain whatever they want! (Information on purchaser, information on seller, information on each gun ......). The application can be constructed to ask about anything at all -- so they can add reasons to deny the application in the future.

BAD NEWS. Among the many other things wrong with this proposed law is the ambiguous application form and the power it gives others to create barriers for sales, or the power to gather more and more information.

Yup I addressed this in my template. What the applications will ask for is everything that has to be filled out by sn FFL for pistol purchases so name address make/model of firearm caliber and serial number. NOTHING IN THE BILL STATES THAT THEY MUST DESTROY THE APPLICATIONS WITH 24 HOURS WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR NICS CHECKS so they essentially just created a gun registry!

 

[CZTHOR]

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House of Representatives
Member Legislative Assistants as of 2/5/2013
63rd Legislature - 2013
Representative Party Dist. Legislative Assistant Room Phone
Alexander, Gary . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 2 . . . . Barb Peters . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 426B . . . . (360) 786-7824
Angel, Jan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 26 . . . Debbie Austin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 434 . . . . . (360) 786-7964
Appleton, Sherry . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 23 . . . Donna Bezon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 132F . . . . (360) 786-7934
Bergquist, Steve . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 11 . . . Syd Locke . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 322 . . . . . (360) 786-7862
Blake, Brian . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 19 . . . JD Rossetti . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 437A . . . . (360) 786-7870
Buys, Vincent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 42 . . . Amanda Smith . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 465 . . . . . (360) 786-7854
Carlyle, Reuven . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 36 . . . Joseph Peha . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 325 . . . . . (360) 786-7814
Chandler, Bruce . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 15 . . . Melinda Woods . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 427B . . . . (360) 786-7960
Chopp, Frank . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 43 . . . Miranda Leskinen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 339C . . . . (360) 786-7920
Clibborn, Judy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 41 . . . Caron Benedetti . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 415 . . . . . (360) 786-7926
Cody, Eileen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 34 . . . Siobhan Mahorter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 303 . . . . . (360) 786-7978
Condotta, Cary . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 12 . . . Brandt Cappell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 425B . . . . (360) 786-7954
Crouse, Larry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 4 . . . . Scott Staley . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 427A . . . . (360) 786-7820
Dahlquist, Cathy . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 31 . . . Keith Bundy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 426 . . . . . (360) 786-7846
DeBolt, Richard . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 20 . . . Catherine Word . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 335C . . . . (360) 786-7896
Dunshee, Hans . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 44 . . . Christina Dunsmore . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 314 . . . . . (360) 786-7804
Fagan, Susan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 9 . . . . Cathy Colley . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 406 . . . . . (360) 786-7942
Farrell, Jessyn . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 46 . . . Nigel Herbig . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 370 . . . . . (360) 786-7818
Fey, Jake . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 27 . . . Eric Mattson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 330 . . . . . (360) 786-7974
Fitzgibbon, Joe . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 34 . . . Yoshi Kumara . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 305 . . . . . (360) 786-7952
Freeman, Roger . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 30 . . . Martin Moore . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 331 . . . . . (360) 786-7830
Goodman, Roger . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 45 . . . Maxima Patashnik . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 328 . . . . . (360) 786-7878
Green, Tami . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 28 . . . Michelle Butler . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 429A . . . . (360) 786-7958
Habib, Cyrus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 48 . . . Crystal Anguay . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 132D . . . . (360) 786-7848
Emily Wicks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Haigh, Kathy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 35 . . . Kim Moores . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 320 . . . . . (360) 786-7966
Haler, Larry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 8 . . . . Jan Swenson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122D . . . . (360) 786-7986
Hansen, Drew . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 23 . . . Jessie Turner . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 369 . . . . . (360) 786-7842
Hargrove, Mark . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 47 . . . Roy Atwood . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 409 . . . . . (360) 786-7918
Harris, Paul . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 17 . . . Joe DePinto . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 403 . . . . . (360) 786-7976
Hawkins, Brad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 12 . . . Taylor Kenck . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122G . . . . (360) 786-7832
Hayes, Dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 10 . . . Tawnya Smith . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 467 . . . . . (360) 786-7914
Holy, Jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 6 . . . . Joshua Kerns . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 405 . . . . . (360) 786-7962
Hope, Mike . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 44 . . . Tricia Kimbrough . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 466 . . . . . (360) 786-7892
Hudgins, Zack . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 11 . . . Douglas Honma . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 438A . . . . (360) 786-7956
Hunt, Sam . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 22 . . . Meagan Arndt . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 438B . . . . (360) 786-7992
Hunter, Ross . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 48 . . . Kristen Mattern . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 315 . . . . . (360) 786-7936
Marilyn Pedersen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Hurst, Christopher . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 31 . . . Caitlin Lopez . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 335 . . . . . (360) 786-7866
House of Representatives
Member Legislative Assistants as of 2/5/2013
63rd Legislature - 2013
Representative Party Dist. Legislative Assistant Room Phone
Jinkins, Laurie . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 27 . . . Jessica Gavre . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 311 . . . . . (360) 786-7930
Johnson, Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 14 . . . Gale Sackman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 425 . . . . . (360) 786-7810
Kagi, Ruth . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 32 . . . Jessica Puckett . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 308 . . . . . (360) 786-7910
Kirby, Steve . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 29 . . . Christel Mason-Gillespie . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 437B . . . . (360) 786-7996
Klippert, Brad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 8 . . . . Kelley Hays . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 410 . . . . . (360) 786-7882
Kochmar, Linda . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 30 . . . Joseph Atkinson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122F . . . . (360) 786-7898
Kretz, Joel . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 7 . . . . Jessica McCarthy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 335A . . . . (360) 786-7988
Kristiansen, Dan . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 39 . . . Brenda Glenn . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 425A . . . . (360) 786-7967
Liias, Marko . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 21 . . . Curt Kohlwes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 414 . . . . . (360) 786-7972
Lytton, Kristine . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 40 . . . Katherine Drewel . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 310 . . . . . (360) 786-7800
MacEwen, Drew . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 35 . . . Kevin Shutty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 431 . . . . . (360) 786-7902
Magendanz, Chad . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 5 . . . . Katherine Davies . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 427 . . . . . (360) 786-7876
Manweller, Matt . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 13 . . . Breanne Elsey . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 470 . . . . . (360) 786-7808
Maxwell, Marcie . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 41 . . . Alex Soldano . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 327 . . . . . (360) 786-7894
McCoy, John . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 38 . . . Brooke Waite . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 132A . . . . (360) 786-7864
Moeller, Jim . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 49 . . . Maureen Gallegos . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 430 . . . . . (360) 786-7872
Morrell, Dawn . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 25 . . . Mary Sherman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 306 . . . . . (360) 786-7948
Morris, Jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 40 . . . Meagan Sharp . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 436A . . . . (360) 786-7970
Moscoso, Luis . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 1 . . . . Robert Paine-Donovan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 332 . . . . . (360) 786-7900
Nealey, Terry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 16 . . . Meagan Allen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 404 . . . . . (360) 786-7828
O'Ban, Steve . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 28 . . . Russell Krantz . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 424 . . . . . (360) 786-7890
Orcutt, Ed . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 20 . . . Amber York . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 408 . . . . . (360) 786-7990
Ormsby, Timm . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 3 . . . . Shannon Waechter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122H . . . . (360) 786-7946
Orwall, Tina . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 33 . . . Mary Soderlind . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 326 . . . . . (360) 786-7834
Overstreet, Jason . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 42 . . . Lea McCartney . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 422 . . . . . (360) 786-7980
Parker, Kevin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 6 . . . . Isaiah Paine . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 421 . . . . . (360) 786-7922
Pedersen, Jamie . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 43 . . . Katy Buck . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 436B . . . . (360) 786-7826
Pettigrew, Eric . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 37 . . . Janaia Secrest-Holden . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 434B . . . . (360) 786-7838
Pike, Liz . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 18 . . . Garrett Delano . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122B . . . . (360) 786-7812
Pollet, Gerry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 46 . . . Tamara Rogers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 317 . . . . . (360) 786-7886
Reykdal, Chris . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 22 . . . Jessica Bateman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 319 . . . . . (360) 786-7940
Riccelli, Marcus . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 3 . . . . Michaela Williams . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 419 . . . . . (360) 786-7888
Roberts, Mary Helen . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 21 . . . Dan Hagen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 420 . . . . . (360) 786-7950
Rodne, Jay . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 5 . . . . Kate Cooper . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 430 . . . . . (360) 786-7852
Ross, Charles . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 14 . . . Wanda Brosey . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122A . . . . (360) 786-7856
Ryu, Cindy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 32 . . . Shoubee Liaw . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 324 . . . . . (360) 786-7880
Santos, Sharon Tomiko . . . . . . . D . . . . . 37 . . . Julia Kwon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 321 . . . . . (360) 786-7944
Sawyer, David . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 29 . . . Olgy Diaz . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 418 . . . . . (360) 786-7906
House of Representatives
Member Legislative Assistants as of 2/5/2013
63rd Legislature - 2013
Representative Party Dist. Legislative Assistant Room Phone
Schmick, Joe . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 9 . . . . Pamela Kentner . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 432 . . . . . (360) 786-7844
Scott, Elizabeth . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 39 . . . Ashley Stokesbary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122E . . . . (360) 786-7816
Seaquist, Larry . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 26 . . . Terra Rose . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 132C . . . . (360) 786-7802
Sells, Mike . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 38 . . . JoAnn Chapman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 132B . . . . (360) 786-7840
Shea, Matt . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 4 . . . . James Robinson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 437 . . . . . (360) 786-7984
Short, Shelly . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 7 . . . . Jacquelin Maycumber . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 436 . . . . . (360) 786-7908
Smith, Norma . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 10 . . . Andy Aboen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 435 . . . . . (360) 786-7884
Springer, Larry . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 45 . . . Ariel Taylor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 132E . . . . (360) 786-7822
Stanford, Derek . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 1 . . . . Jed Bradley . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 318 . . . . . (360) 786-7928
Stonier, Monica . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 17 . . . Emily Robertson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 309 . . . . . (360) 786-7994
Sullivan, Pat . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 47 . . . Lesley Roberts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 339A . . . . (360) 786-7858
Takko, Dean . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 19 . . . Darci Miller . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 336 . . . . . (360) 786-7806
Tarleton, Gael . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 36 . . . Michelle Nance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 334 . . . . . (360) 786-7860
Taylor, David . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 15 . . . Jaime Rowland . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 428 . . . . . (360) 786-7874
Tharinger, Steve . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 24 . . . Leanne Horn . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 368 . . . . . (360) 786-7904
Upthegrove, Dave . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 33 . . . Becky Hellman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 304 . . . . . (360) 786-7868
Van De Wege, Kevin . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 24 . . . Linda Barnfather . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 434A . . . . (360) 786-7916
Vick, Brandon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 18 . . . Peter Gilmour . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 469 . . . . . (360) 786-7850
Walsh, Maureen . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 16 . . . Marge Plumage . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 411 . . . . . (360) 786-7836
Warnick, Judy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 13 . . . Kyle Lynch . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122C . . . . (360) 786-7932
Wilcox, J.T. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 2 . . . . Sharon Trask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 426A . . . . (360) 786-7912
Wylie, Sharon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 49 . . . Megan Walsh . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 417 . . . . . (360) 786-7924
Zeiger, Hans . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 25 . . . Sarah Pollock . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 468 . . . . . (360) 786-7968
Printed 2/5/2013

 

[Kable]

Please CALL and write your reps TODAY as they have a hearing tomorrow morning on this and other firearms related bills. I just called mine and had to leave a voicemail for my 2 reps I hope this is a sign that they are getting hammered with calls. Senators assistant answered though and I gave her a laundry list of bills not to support and some bills to support like hb1371 which is the WA state firearms freedom act

 

[hermannr]

Hey everyone, I've been trying to come up with the best letter I could to combat HB 1588 for universal background checks. below is what I have so far and will be sending to my reps and everyone that has signed off on the bill so far (can be found in this thread http://www.northwestfirearms.com/legal-political/122553-washington-hb-1588-contact-info.html). Please feel free add or edit and then upload different versions if you feel it is better.

I am writing to express that in no way should you support house bill 1588 requiring universal background checks.
1. This bill is far too reaching. Currently Concealed Pistol License (CPL) holders do not have to submit to a background check when purchasing a firearm through a dealer. This bill does not include this exception nor does it include an exception for giving or selling a firearm to a family member or inheriting a firearm.
2. It is already against federal law (and state law) to knowingly sell, trade, give lend, rent or transfer a gun to someone they know or should have known was not legally allowed to possess a firearm.
3. This bill would essentially require ALL sales and transfers be subject to a $20 fee plus additional taxes and fees plus any charges imposed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. This is essentially a tax on a RIGHT much like a poll tax which has been deemed by the Supreme Court to be unconstitutional. In order for this bill to be constitutional it must be FREE and not create an undue burden for a background check to be run. As such in order for this bill to go through the STATE would need to pay FFL's for the background check fee and not the buyer or seller. This state already has a budget deficit and we do not need to be wasting anymore of taxpayers money.
a. An alternative would be to setup a system in which people could apply for a free background check card similar to a CPL but would not require fingerprinting and would not allow for concealed carry. However, voter ID laws are highly controversial and setting up such a system would raise the same questions about undue hardship. This would also be added costs and regulation requirements for the state.
4. This bill essentially creates a registry which is illegal under the "Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986" which states "No such rule or regulation prescribed [by the Attorney General] after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary's authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation."
a. In this bill it calls for the department of licensing to create an application form to include information required under RCW 9.41.090 for an application to purchase a pistol from a dealer AND any other information the department of licensing determines is appropriate. In RCW 9.41.090 for an application to purchase a pistol from a dealer the information required is " full name, residential address, date and place of birth, race, and gender; the date and hour of the application; the applicant's driver's license number or state identification card number; a description of the pistol including the make, model, caliber and manufacturer's number". This bill requires this information be gathered for all firearms and not just pistols and does not setup any guidelines to destroy the application. With the NICS system it is required by law that all records be destroyed within 24 hours. By creating a separate application process through the state with no guidelines for destruction in conjunction with all the information required this creates a universal registry which as stated is illegal.
5. This bill would be unenforceable. As stated above it is already illegal to sell to someone who you know or should know is unable to legally own a firearm. Criminals will still find ways of purchasing firearms without having a background check run.
6. This bill also does not outline anyway for someone who is flagged as ineligible to purchase a firearm to be investigated for an attempt to purchase a firearm illegally. In 2010, out of 76,000 denied purchasers, only 44 were prosecuted nationwide for illegally attempting to purchase a gun. If you are not going to crack down on those attempting to purchase a firearm illegally then what is the point of creating another law?
a. If someone is denied purchase it should be law enforcements job to notify the applicant. Under this bill it simply states that a denied result needs to be listed on the application leaving the seller to have to notify the individual of the denial. This could potentially cause safety issues for the seller if the denied party decides to retaliate or attempts to steal the firearm from the seller
7. This law does not address any protection for the seller from prosecution if the buyer is not legally allowed to possess a firearm but uses a stolen identity or provides false information on the background check form.

Please do not support this bill or any other bills which would further infringe on our second amendment rights.

While a nice, well thought out letter will make you feel good, don't ever think these people (or even their help, read beyond the first line..

Like a resume these days, very short, very brief, very to the point...no more. If you want to say more, sign up to speak at a hearing.

 

[duane black]

Please CALL and write your reps TODAY as they have a hearing tomorrow morning on this and other firearms related bills. I just called mine and had to leave a voicemail for my 2 reps I hope this is a sign that they are getting hammered with calls. Senators assistant answered though and I gave her a laundry list of bills not to support and some bills to support like hb1371 which is the WA state firearms freedom act

Done.

 

[Kable]

In addition everyone please email [email protected] the bill could rest on his support and he seems to think it isn't setting up a registry let him know he is wrong and not to support the bill

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[Nimh]

+1
Done and done.

 

[jac1304]

Next they will collect sales tax!!!

Of course these money grubbing leaches want more of our money, but it's for the kids. Idiots