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Washington State HB 1588 Requiring universal background checks for firearms transfers

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    HB 1588 - 2013-14

    Requiring universal background checks for firearms transfers.

    HB 1588 - 2013-14



    History of the Bill as of Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:41 AM

    Sponsors:

    Representatives Pedersen, Hope, Jinkins, Hansen, Freeman, Kagi, Walsh, Carlyle, Hunter, Clibborn, Ormsby, Cody, Green, Stanford, Orwall, Maxwell, Liias, Pettigrew, Tharinger, Springer, Hudgins, Wylie, Moeller, Fitzgibbon, Ryu, Roberts, Goodman, Riccelli, Farrell, Fey, Appleton, Pollet, Habib, Bergquist, Moscoso, Hunt, Santos, Reykdal


    Companion Bill:

    SB 5625 2013 REGULAR SESSION Jan 31

    First reading, referred to Judiciary. (View Original Bill) Feb 13

    Scheduled for public hearing in the House Committee on Judiciary at 8:00 AM. (Subject to change
    Call your Representative tell them how you feel. http://www.leg.wa.gov/house/representatives/Pages/default.aspx

    Below is a list of each Member, their Legislative Assistant, Room Number and Office Number. To send an e-mail directly to a member it is firstname.lastname@leg.wa.gov. Example richard.debolt@leg.wa.gov.
    House of Representatives
    Member Legislative Assistants as of 2/5/2013
    63rd Legislature - 2013
    Representative Party Dist. Legislative Assistant Room Phone
    Alexander, Gary . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 2 . . . . Barb Peters . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 426B . . . . (360) 786-7824
    Angel, Jan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 26 . . . Debbie Austin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 434 . . . . . (360) 786-7964
    Appleton, Sherry . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 23 . . . Donna Bezon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 132F . . . . (360) 786-7934
    Bergquist, Steve . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 11 . . . Syd Locke . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 322 . . . . . (360) 786-7862
    Blake, Brian . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 19 . . . JD Rossetti . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 437A . . . . (360) 786-7870
    Buys, Vincent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 42 . . . Amanda Smith . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 465 . . . . . (360) 786-7854
    Carlyle, Reuven . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 36 . . . Joseph Peha . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 325 . . . . . (360) 786-7814
    Chandler, Bruce . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 15 . . . Melinda Woods . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 427B . . . . (360) 786-7960
    Chopp, Frank . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 43 . . . Miranda Leskinen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 339C . . . . (360) 786-7920
    Clibborn, Judy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 41 . . . Caron Benedetti . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 415 . . . . . (360) 786-7926
    Cody, Eileen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 34 . . . Siobhan Mahorter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 303 . . . . . (360) 786-7978
    Condotta, Cary . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 12 . . . Brandt Cappell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 425B . . . . (360) 786-7954
    Crouse, Larry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 4 . . . . Scott Staley . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 427A . . . . (360) 786-7820
    Dahlquist, Cathy . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 31 . . . Keith Bundy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 426 . . . . . (360) 786-7846
    DeBolt, Richard . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 20 . . . Catherine Word . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 335C . . . . (360) 786-7896
    Dunshee, Hans . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 44 . . . Christina Dunsmore . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 314 . . . . . (360) 786-7804
    Fagan, Susan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 9 . . . . Cathy Colley . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 406 . . . . . (360) 786-7942
    Farrell, Jessyn . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 46 . . . Nigel Herbig . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 370 . . . . . (360) 786-7818
    Fey, Jake . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 27 . . . Eric Mattson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 330 . . . . . (360) 786-7974
    Fitzgibbon, Joe . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 34 . . . Yoshi Kumara . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 305 . . . . . (360) 786-7952
    Freeman, Roger . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 30 . . . Martin Moore . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 331 . . . . . (360) 786-7830
    Goodman, Roger . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 45 . . . Maxima Patashnik . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 328 . . . . . (360) 786-7878
    Green, Tami . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 28 . . . Michelle Butler . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 429A . . . . (360) 786-7958
    Habib, Cyrus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 48 . . . Crystal Anguay . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 132D . . . . (360) 786-7848
    Emily Wicks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
    Haigh, Kathy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 35 . . . Kim Moores . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 320 . . . . . (360) 786-7966
    Haler, Larry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 8 . . . . Jan Swenson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122D . . . . (360) 786-7986
    Hansen, Drew . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 23 . . . Jessie Turner . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 369 . . . . . (360) 786-7842
    Hargrove, Mark . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 47 . . . Roy Atwood . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 409 . . . . . (360) 786-7918
    Harris, Paul . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 17 . . . Joe DePinto . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 403 . . . . . (360) 786-7976
    Hawkins, Brad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 12 . . . Taylor Kenck . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122G . . . . (360) 786-7832
    Hayes, Dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 10 . . . Tawnya Smith . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 467 . . . . . (360) 786-7914
    Holy, Jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 6 . . . . Joshua Kerns . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 405 . . . . . (360) 786-7962
    Hope, Mike . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 44 . . . Tricia Kimbrough . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 466 . . . . . (360) 786-7892
    Hudgins, Zack . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 11 . . . Douglas Honma . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 438A . . . . (360) 786-7956
    Hunt, Sam . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 22 . . . Meagan Arndt . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 438B . . . . (360) 786-7992
    Hunter, Ross . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 48 . . . Kristen Mattern . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 315 . . . . . (360) 786-7936
    Marilyn Pedersen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
    Hurst, Christopher . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 31 . . . Caitlin Lopez . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 335 . . . . . (360) 786-7866
    House of Representatives
    Member Legislative Assistants as of 2/5/2013
    63rd Legislature - 2013
    Representative Party Dist. Legislative Assistant Room Phone
    Jinkins, Laurie . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 27 . . . Jessica Gavre . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 311 . . . . . (360) 786-7930
    Johnson, Norm . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 14 . . . Gale Sackman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 425 . . . . . (360) 786-7810
    Kagi, Ruth . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 32 . . . Jessica Puckett . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 308 . . . . . (360) 786-7910
    Kirby, Steve . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 29 . . . Christel Mason-Gillespie . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 437B . . . . (360) 786-7996
    Klippert, Brad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 8 . . . . Kelley Hays . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 410 . . . . . (360) 786-7882
    Kochmar, Linda . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 30 . . . Joseph Atkinson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122F . . . . (360) 786-7898
    Kretz, Joel . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 7 . . . . Jessica McCarthy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 335A . . . . (360) 786-7988
    Kristiansen, Dan . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 39 . . . Brenda Glenn . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 425A . . . . (360) 786-7967
    Liias, Marko . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 21 . . . Curt Kohlwes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 414 . . . . . (360) 786-7972
    Lytton, Kristine . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 40 . . . Katherine Drewel . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 310 . . . . . (360) 786-7800
    MacEwen, Drew . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 35 . . . Kevin Shutty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 431 . . . . . (360) 786-7902
    Magendanz, Chad . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 5 . . . . Katherine Davies . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 427 . . . . . (360) 786-7876
    Manweller, Matt . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 13 . . . Breanne Elsey . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 470 . . . . . (360) 786-7808
    Maxwell, Marcie . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 41 . . . Alex Soldano . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 327 . . . . . (360) 786-7894
    McCoy, John . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 38 . . . Brooke Waite . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 132A . . . . (360) 786-7864
    Moeller, Jim . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 49 . . . Maureen Gallegos . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 430 . . . . . (360) 786-7872
    Morrell, Dawn . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 25 . . . Mary Sherman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 306 . . . . . (360) 786-7948
    Morris, Jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 40 . . . Meagan Sharp . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 436A . . . . (360) 786-7970
    Moscoso, Luis . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 1 . . . . Robert Paine-Donovan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 332 . . . . . (360) 786-7900
    Nealey, Terry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 16 . . . Meagan Allen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 404 . . . . . (360) 786-7828
    O'Ban, Steve . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 28 . . . Russell Krantz . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 424 . . . . . (360) 786-7890
    Orcutt, Ed . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 20 . . . Amber York . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 408 . . . . . (360) 786-7990
    Ormsby, Timm . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 3 . . . . Shannon Waechter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122H . . . . (360) 786-7946
    Orwall, Tina . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 33 . . . Mary Soderlind . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 326 . . . . . (360) 786-7834
    Overstreet, Jason . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 42 . . . Lea McCartney . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 422 . . . . . (360) 786-7980
    Parker, Kevin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 6 . . . . Isaiah Paine . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 421 . . . . . (360) 786-7922
    Pedersen, Jamie . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 43 . . . Katy Buck . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 436B . . . . (360) 786-7826
    Pettigrew, Eric . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 37 . . . Janaia Secrest-Holden . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 434B . . . . (360) 786-7838
    Pike, Liz . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 18 . . . Garrett Delano . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122B . . . . (360) 786-7812
    Pollet, Gerry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 46 . . . Tamara Rogers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 317 . . . . . (360) 786-7886
    Reykdal, Chris . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 22 . . . Jessica Bateman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 319 . . . . . (360) 786-7940
    Riccelli, Marcus . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 3 . . . . Michaela Williams . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 419 . . . . . (360) 786-7888
    Roberts, Mary Helen . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 21 . . . Dan Hagen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 420 . . . . . (360) 786-7950
    Rodne, Jay . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 5 . . . . Kate Cooper . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 430 . . . . . (360) 786-7852
    Ross, Charles . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 14 . . . Wanda Brosey . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122A . . . . (360) 786-7856
    Ryu, Cindy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 32 . . . Shoubee Liaw . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 324 . . . . . (360) 786-7880
    Santos, Sharon Tomiko . . . . . . . D . . . . . 37 . . . Julia Kwon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 321 . . . . . (360) 786-7944
    Sawyer, David . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 29 . . . Olgy Diaz . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 418 . . . . . (360) 786-7906
    House of Representatives
    Member Legislative Assistants as of 2/5/2013
    63rd Legislature - 2013
    Representative Party Dist. Legislative Assistant Room Phone
    Schmick, Joe . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 9 . . . . Pamela Kentner . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 432 . . . . . (360) 786-7844
    Scott, Elizabeth . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 39 . . . Ashley Stokesbary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122E . . . . (360) 786-7816
    Seaquist, Larry . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 26 . . . Terra Rose . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 132C . . . . (360) 786-7802
    Sells, Mike . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 38 . . . JoAnn Chapman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 132B . . . . (360) 786-7840
    Shea, Matt . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 4 . . . . James Robinson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 437 . . . . . (360) 786-7984
    Short, Shelly . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 7 . . . . Jacquelin Maycumber . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 436 . . . . . (360) 786-7908
    Smith, Norma . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 10 . . . Andy Aboen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 435 . . . . . (360) 786-7884
    Springer, Larry . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 45 . . . Ariel Taylor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 132E . . . . (360) 786-7822
    Stanford, Derek . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 1 . . . . Jed Bradley . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 318 . . . . . (360) 786-7928
    Stonier, Monica . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 17 . . . Emily Robertson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 309 . . . . . (360) 786-7994
    Sullivan, Pat . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 47 . . . Lesley Roberts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 339A . . . . (360) 786-7858
    Takko, Dean . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 19 . . . Darci Miller . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 336 . . . . . (360) 786-7806
    Tarleton, Gael . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 36 . . . Michelle Nance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 334 . . . . . (360) 786-7860
    Taylor, David . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 15 . . . Jaime Rowland . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 428 . . . . . (360) 786-7874
    Tharinger, Steve . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 24 . . . Leanne Horn . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 368 . . . . . (360) 786-7904
    Upthegrove, Dave . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 33 . . . Becky Hellman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 304 . . . . . (360) 786-7868
    Van De Wege, Kevin . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 24 . . . Linda Barnfather . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 434A . . . . (360) 786-7916
    Vick, Brandon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 18 . . . Peter Gilmour . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 469 . . . . . (360) 786-7850
    Walsh, Maureen . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 16 . . . Marge Plumage . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 411 . . . . . (360) 786-7836
    Warnick, Judy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 13 . . . Kyle Lynch . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 122C . . . . (360) 786-7932
    Wilcox, J.T. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 2 . . . . Sharon Trask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LEG 426A . . . . (360) 786-7912
    Wylie, Sharon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . D . . . . . 49 . . . Megan Walsh . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 417 . . . . . (360) 786-7924
    Zeiger, Hans . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . R . . . . . 25 . . . Sarah Pollock . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JLOB 468 . . . . . (360) 786-7968
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  2. FullCaliberII

    FullCaliberII Pierce County, WA Active Member

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    Hmm. I wonder what price gun shops will start charging for these checks, if this is passed.
     
  3. CZTHOR

    CZTHOR Northwest New Member

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    H-0837.4 _____________________________________________
    HOUSE BILL 1588
    _____________________________________________
    State of Washington 63rd Legislature 2013 Regular Session
    By Representatives Pedersen, Hope, Jinkins, Hansen, Freeman, Kagi,
    Walsh, Carlyle, Hunter, Clibborn, Ormsby, Cody, Green, Stanford,
    Orwall, Maxwell, Liias, Pettigrew, Tharinger, Springer, Hudgins,
    Wylie, Moeller, Fitzgibbon, Ryu, Roberts, Goodman, Riccelli, Farrell,
    Fey, Appleton, Pollet, Habib, Bergquist, Moscoso, Santos, Reykdal, and
    Hunt
    Read first time 01/31/13. Referred to Committee on Judiciary.
    1 AN ACT Relating to requiring universal background checks for
    2 firearms transfers; amending RCW 9.41.080; creating a new section; and
    3 prescribing penalties.
    4 BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON:
    5 NEW SECTION. Sec. 1. The legislature finds that there is broad
    6 consensus that certain people, such as felons, minors, and
    7 involuntarily committed persons, should not be eligible to possess
    8 firearms for public safety reasons. Background checks are an effective
    9 and easy mechanism to ensure that firearms are not sold to those who
    10 are prohibited from possessing them. However, because background check
    11 requirements apply only to transfers by licensed firearms dealers, many
    12 firearms are currently sold without a background check, allowing felons
    13 and other ineligible persons to gain access to them. The legislature
    14 intends by this act to strengthen our background check system by
    15 broadening the requirement for a background check to apply to all
    16 firearms sales in the state.
    17 Sec. 2. RCW 9.41.080 and 1994 sp.s. c 7 s 409 are each amended to
    18 read as follows:
    p. 1 HB 1588
    1 (1) No person may deliver a firearm to any person whom he or she
    2 has reasonable cause to believe is ineligible under ((RCW 9.41.040))
    3 state or federal law to possess a firearm. Any person violating this
    4 ((section)) subsection is guilty of a class C felony, punishable under
    5 chapter 9A.20 RCW.
    6 (2)(a) No unlicensed person may sell a firearm to another
    7 unlicensed person unless the purchaser has undergone a background check
    8 in accordance with the provisions of this subsection (2) and the
    9 purchaser is not ineligible to possess a firearm under state or federal
    10 law.
    11 (b) A seller of a firearm to an unlicensed person shall request a
    12 background check of the purchaser or transferee from a dealer or from
    13 the chief of police or the sheriff of the jurisdiction in which the
    14 seller or the purchaser resides. The background check shall include a
    15 check of the national criminal instant background check system.
    16 (c) The purchaser must complete an application to transfer a
    17 firearm. The application shall be provided to the dealer or the chief
    18 of police or sheriff conducting the background check.
    19 (d) The department of licensing shall create and make available an
    20 application to transfer a firearm for use by unlicensed persons engaged
    21 in the sale or purchase of a firearm. The application shall include
    22 the information required under RCW 9.41.090 for an application to
    23 purchase a pistol from a dealer, and any other information the
    24 department of licensing determines is appropriate.
    25 (e) A dealer or a chief of police or sheriff who conducts a
    26 background check for an unlicensed person under this subsection (2)
    27 must indicate on the application whether the purchaser is eligible or
    28 ineligible to possess a firearm under state and federal law based on
    29 the results of the background check. A dealer or a chief of police or
    30 sheriff may charge a fee for conducting the background check in an
    31 amount not to exceed twenty dollars, plus any charges imposed by the
    32 federal bureau of investigation.
    33 (f) A person who sells a firearm to an unlicensed person in
    34 violation of this subsection (2) is guilty of a gross misdemeanor
    35 punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.
    36 (g) For the purposes of this subsection (2), "unlicensed person"
    37 means any person who is not licensed as a dealer under this chapter.
    HB 1588 p. 2
    1 (h) This subsection (2) does not apply to the sale of an antique
    2 firearm.
    3 (i) This subsection (2) does not apply to, and is not intended to
    4 alter the requirements of this chapter that apply to, the sale of a
    5 firearm by a dealer licensed under this chapter.
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  4. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    jimwsea Vancouver, Washington state Active Member

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    I read the first post and was about to write that this is disguised registration. Guess it is not that well disguised.

    Checking for a criminal background is one thing. Tracking purchases of those who pass the background check is a different monster.
     
  6. longcolt

    longcolt Zephyrhills, FL Active Member

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    They just can't get enough gun control. Which is really about people control.

    Resist it all now since its clear that its part of Obama's agenda to register all firearms and we know where that leads.

    There are 20,000 gun control laws on the books already and they don't enforce half of those. This move was in the cards all along with this administration and they are using this emotional climate to link up all the liberal state legislatures to push a agenda that was in the planning stages following the 2008 election. Note that its active in NY, NJ, CT, IL, CA, CO, MD and a couple of other states. They intend to milk this cow dry, so as gun owners we should link up and not give one inch.

    Push back hard in any way you can. E-mails, letters, protests, join a gun organization, etc .
     
  7. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Looks like I'm firing another round of physical letters out on Monday.

    However, I will not comply if this crap passes.
     
  8. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    But Redcap,it says even felons have to do back round checks,so you have to also.

    I'm sure the minute this bill is passed all those street deals in white center will stop.

    Yeah I can see it now.............."yo MOFO FFL man,do me a backround check on my ninja homebooy. I know he was in da joint"

    All gun violence will pass
     
  9. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    they may have to do a bc but can not be charged for having a gun and selling it to someone yea that sounds logical
     
  10. Kable

    Kable Lynnwood Active Member

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    I've been writing my reps, sadly one is Kagi who is a co sponsor, and have been using the arguments that criminals will still find ways to buy without a background check and it would be unenforceable without registration (which must not happen) and therefore only makes things more difficult for law abiding citizens plus they would now have to pay a fee for a RIGHT which is the same thing as a poll tax which has been ruled as unconstitutional. Anyone have any other good arguments we could use against this?
     
  11. skjos

    skjos Orting Member

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    In a similar thread I proposed an alternate background check method to my state reps:

    I guesstimated this would add $7 to the DL renewal fee.
     
  12. Kable

    Kable Lynnwood Active Member

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    Hey everyone, I've been trying to come up with the best letter I could to combat HB 1588 for universal background checks. below is what I have so far and will be sending to my reps and everyone that has signed off on the bill so far (can be found in this thread http://www.northwestfirearms.com/legal-political/122553-washington-hb-1588-contact-info.html). Please feel free add or edit and then upload different versions if you feel it is better.

    I am writing to express that in no way should you support house bill 1588 requiring universal background checks.
    1. This bill is far too reaching. Currently Concealed Pistol License (CPL) holders do not have to submit to a background check when purchasing a firearm through a dealer. This bill does not include this exception nor does it include an exception for giving or selling a firearm to a family member or inheriting a firearm.
    2. It is already against federal law (and state law) to knowingly sell, trade, give lend, rent or transfer a gun to someone they know or should have known was not legally allowed to possess a firearm.
    3. This bill would essentially require ALL sales and transfers be subject to a $20 fee plus additional taxes and fees plus any charges imposed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. This is essentially a tax on a RIGHT much like a poll tax which has been deemed by the Supreme Court to be unconstitutional. In order for this bill to be constitutional it must be FREE and not create an undue burden for a background check to be run. As such in order for this bill to go through the STATE would need to pay FFL’s for the background check fee and not the buyer or seller. This state already has a budget deficit and we do not need to be wasting anymore of taxpayers money.
    a. An alternative would be to setup a system in which people could apply for a free background check card similar to a CPL but would not require fingerprinting and would not allow for concealed carry. However, voter ID laws are highly controversial and setting up such a system would raise the same questions about undue hardship. This would also be added costs and regulation requirements for the state.
    4. This bill essentially creates a registry which is illegal under the "Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986" which states "No such rule or regulation prescribed [by the Attorney General] after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary's authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation."
    a. In this bill it calls for the department of licensing to create an application form to include information required under RCW 9.41.090 for an application to purchase a pistol from a dealer AND any other information the department of licensing determines is appropriate. In RCW 9.41.090 for an application to purchase a pistol from a dealer the information required is " full name, residential address, date and place of birth, race, and gender; the date and hour of the application; the applicant's driver's license number or state identification card number; a description of the pistol including the make, model, caliber and manufacturer's number". This bill requires this information be gathered for all firearms and not just pistols and does not setup any guidelines to destroy the application. With the NICS system it is required by law that all records be destroyed within 24 hours. By creating a separate application process through the state with no guidelines for destruction in conjunction with all the information required this creates a universal registry which as stated is illegal.
    5. This bill would be unenforceable. As stated above it is already illegal to sell to someone who you know or should know is unable to legally own a firearm. Criminals will still find ways of purchasing firearms without having a background check run.
    6. This bill also does not outline anyway for someone who is flagged as ineligible to purchase a firearm to be investigated for an attempt to purchase a firearm illegally. In 2010, out of 76,000 denied purchasers, only 44 were prosecuted nationwide for illegally attempting to purchase a gun. If you are not going to crack down on those attempting to purchase a firearm illegally then what is the point of creating another law?
    a. If someone is denied purchase it should be law enforcements job to notify the applicant. Under this bill it simply states that a denied result needs to be listed on the application leaving the seller to have to notify the individual of the denial. This could potentially cause safety issues for the seller if the denied party decides to retaliate or attempts to steal the firearm from the seller
    7. This law does not address any protection for the seller from prosecution if the buyer is not legally allowed to possess a firearm but uses a stolen identity or provides false information on the background check form.

    Please do not support this bill or any other bills which would further infringe on our second amendment rights.
     
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    Ranb Belfair, WA Active Member

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    Bill 1588 status

    Bill 1588 (background checks) is scheduled for a Judiciary Committee hearing on Wednesday February 13 at 8am in Olympia. Take a day off from work to be there to sign in against the bill and speak to the committee about it. I can give up to two people a ride to Olympia from the Bremerton, Port Orchard, Belfair or Shelton area. Listening is easy, speaking is easy too, after you have done it once. Call me if you need to know more.

    Randy Bragge
    (360) 440-5889
     
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    Kable Lynnwood Active Member

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    Here are some arguments anyone who is able to attend can use

    http://www.northwestfirearms.com/le...kground-checks-template-letter-your-reps.html
     
  15. blazzinlead

    blazzinlead Benton County New Member

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    Next they will collect sales tax!!!
     
  16. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    DO NOT WANT.
     
  17. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.
     
  18. skjos

    skjos Orting Member

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    Excellent information for writing our reps.
     
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    kumabear17 Issaquah Active Member

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    State Representative Matt Shea just responded to a letter I wrote to say his office has been "overwelmed with opposition" letters to HR1588. He said he hopes all the other representatives have received the same feedback.

    The history of fees in this state should tell you it will be increased if this law passes. I'll bet you can count on sales tax being added too. Remember up until last year when you shipped a weapon into the state from Gun Broker or somewhere, there wasn't any sales tax collected. The past governor changed that and I don't see anyone would change it now. Private sales would just be to easy for them to pass up.

    I don't see it as being just a background check. They will collect the seller's name and location plus the buyer's name and location along with the serial number of the weapon. Want to pass your collection on to you son or daughter? It'll cost you and then the serial numbers will all be recorded and maintained by the State. Washington does it now for handguns and I have always wondered why none of us protested them keeping the information on file.

    And before anyone writes me about this being stupid and they won't do it. I think that's pretty obvious between relatives and "good" friends most of us won't. The problem will be anynew firearm purchased will now be permanently recorded and maintained by the State. We need to protest this proposal and keep it from passing.
     
  20. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    I believe number 1 is wrong. CPL holders still have to have background done.