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Washington SB 6025 - Body Armor

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Godzilla, Feb 18, 2014.

  1. Godzilla

    Godzilla Battle Ground, WA Member

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  2. duane black

    duane black Washington Well-Known Member

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    I think the state legislature needs to focus on real problems, not Hollywood make believe issues.
     
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  3. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Why are they even wasting time on this when there are so man REAL problems that this is distracting from.................
     
  4. 2506

    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Because solving real problems takes leadership, guts, and compromise. And regardless of the outcome, half your constituents won't be happy with the outcome or how you voted and your opponents will use it against you in the next primary. Getting re-elected is what's really important.
     
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  5. 338125X3

    338125X3 The High Desert New Member

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    small piece to a bigger plan.
     
  6. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    Just trying to become more like California is all...
     
  7. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    OK so this will stop bank robbers, school shooters and Terrorists from wearing BA, just like gun control does?
    What about the home owner who wakes at 3AM, tosses on his BA and shoots a baddie, will he get extra time for discharging his firearm and become a 3 time convicted felon?
    Do you see who this Bill is aimed at?
     
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  8. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    I guess we should ask ourselves this, how many people like us in this forum, own body armor?
    Because I will go out on a limb and say, this law wasn't passed for issues law enforcement faced before today, but what they will possibly experience in the future.
    Read between the lines....
     
  9. SCARed

    SCARed Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Personally I think it's stupid. Has anyone wearing body armor, and been in a shoot-out with LE, survived? Sure, they've stayed in the fight longer, but they still died. If theywere wearing body armor and weren't in a shoot-out then what was the problem?
    So what exactly are they passing this law for?
     
  10. rodell

    rodell Newcastle, WA Active Member

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    Commit a serious crime (burglary, assault, rape, ???) while carrying a gun and receive a mandatory 15 years on top of your sentence. Richmond, VA tried it and it worked (they had 10 years as an adder). I'll happily pay more taxes for prisons.
     
  11. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    So your saying rapists wear Body Armor? WTF OVER?
     
  12. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    Let's see...

    http://www.lao.ca.gov/PolicyAreas/CJ/6_cj_inmatecost

    https://www.federalregister.gov/art...etermination-of-average-cost-of-incarceration

    And about Washington State

    http://www.vera.org/sites/default/f...-of-prisons-40-fact-sheets-updated-072012.pdf

    Actually this source has data on many other states as well. Bottom line - be careful what you wish for.
     
  13. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    We used to hang cattle thieves...now we don't even hang guys that rape and murder their fellow man.






    My how times have changed.
     
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  14. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    Let's also recall what we did to natives, blacks and women... how times have changed indeed!
     
  15. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, now it's only a hate crime when whites commit them against minorities.

    Soon, white males are going to have to push for re-affirmative action to ensure employers aren't JUST hiring minorities and women...
     
  16. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    That's the thing with the American society - it can never go only as far as actually necessary to correct its mistakes. Perhaps the reason
    for that is the enormous inertia that develops when the moral standards get changed... dunno
     
  17. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    I think the pendulum just swings too far (left or right and never settles in the center). Everyone reacts emotionally to a situation instead of logically.

    Newton Massacre? "Save the children! Take the guns!"
    9-11-01? "The terrorists are coming, the terrorists are coming!"

    We're constantly told that we're not supposed to judge the actions of a few Muslims and hold it against all of them yet gun owners are treated like a potential criminal everyday.

    Reading it- if I wear body armor, drink and drive then injure someone I can get a lot of time in prison.

    As previously mentioned...how about instead of focussing on the improbable dude wearing armor, getting drunk and driving into a school playground- we attack that budget deficit I hear is short every freeking fiscal year?

    Just Saying...
     
  18. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    And another one bites the dust hey hey....
     
  19. rodell

    rodell Newcastle, WA Active Member

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    I'm saying forget the armor, get serious about crime.
     
  20. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    .. Just as every imperialistic civilization did to each other..
    Just as the natives did to themselves on a daily basis as did the Africans..
    That defense doesnt hold weight.

    Get outta here.