Washington folks dumping guns?

[Medic!]

Just noticed how many Washington guns for sale in the sales adds.
Looks like a result of the bill passing.

I hate to see people feel compelled to sell there guns. But it appears this new bill is pushing gun owners buttons?

It could be, people will scramble to secure guns before the new law takes affect? And others will panic and sell. Anyways. I think before the music stops. A lot of guns will change hands.

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[Soj1057]

I would think it would be the exact opposite, and people from Washington would be scrambling to acquire more. I really feel for them. I know we will head down that road in the not too distant future here as well.

 

[etrain16]

I agree, I wouldn't expect to see a sell-off, but perhaps a quick re-arranging of collections before the registration goes into effect. Maybe dump a few for cash so you can get what you really want ahead of the deadline. As far as I've read, what you currently own isn't subject to additional background check or registration - just what you get after the law kicks in.

 

[Mikej]

I haven't read the bill being from the South side of the river. Will this just be a process of the buyer/seller getting together and going to the FFL, (Local gun store, FFL's home, Sportsman's Warehouse etc) fill out the same paperwork, make the call, drop $10.00 and be on your way? Or, is this going add another $25.00, or more, dollars to the (formerly) private transaction?

What a crappy thing to happen to you guys! I dread this coming to Oregon, and you sure know it will.

Mike

 

[bolus]

I haven't read the bill being from the South side of the river. Will this just be a process of the buyer/seller getting together and going to the FFL, (Local gun store, FFL's home, Sportsman's Warehouse etc) fill out the same paperwork, make the call, drop $10.00 and be on your way? Or, is this going add another $25.00, or more, dollars to the (formerly) private transaction?

What a crappy thing to happen to you guys! I dread this coming to Oregon, and you sure know it will.

Mike

The FFL gets to charge a transfer fee (who would do it for free?). So I'd expect $25-35 +10 background check for private sales

Too bad you cant register as an FFL just for doing private sale transfers. It would be a great way for something like a gun club to get together to help with private sales.

 

[Mikej]

The FFL gets to charge a transfer fee (who would do it for free?). So I'd expect $25-35 +10 background check for private sales

Too bad you cant register as an FFL just for doing private sale transfers. It would be a great way for something like a gun club to get together to help with private sales.

Well, I'm guessing all the FFLs were (secretly?) in favor of this bovine poo law then! Bummer guys....

 

[2506]

The FFL gets to charge a transfer fee (who would do it for free?). So I'd expect $25-35 +10 background check for private sales

Too bad you cant register as an FFL just for doing private sale transfers. It would be a great way for something like a gun club to get together to help with private sales.

Who says you can't? That's a great idea.

 

[Joe13]

No one on this side of the river is dumping guns, it's just normal turn over.

I voted against this bill and convinced many to do the same, but now that it's here it really isn't the end of the world - it just makes hippies feel better about closing up "loopholes".

They didn't advertise the defects and loopholes in 594 even though there are plenty. I predict this gets overturned eventually but until then... It's business as usual.

 

[IronMonster]

I think its both, I have a couple I want to sell and would just as soon be able to do so in a simple FTF transaction and there is at least a couple I would buy if the deal was right. Its kind of the end of the road for us so it makes sense to me that folks want to get their house in order.

 

[Martini_Up]

easier and more profitable to sell than to bury or have taken away.

also, probably can predict the great unpleasantness coming and don't want to be involved so just get rid of them and baa baa baa.... you know.

 

[spectra]

Remember we still live right next to Oregon.... I can go to a OR dealer and buy a long gun any day of the week.

This new law is a joke but I guess maybe some will feel safer now

 

[bolus]

Who says you can't? That's a great idea.

I thought that in order to get an FFL that you have to be in the business of selling guns (the ATF definition).

I was thinking more of something like a notary, where you are not in the business of selling guns but could still do background checks for private sellers. I dont think anything like that would be allowed.

 

[dwaineshort]

If they don't change their price because of the new bill, 311 tactical in Vancouver charges $20 for the transfer/background.
Nice guys.

 

[Mongo1]

There is a form buyer and seller can fill out, call an 800 number and make a legal transfer/background check for $10. This prevents selling to a "prohibited person" and prevents the buyer from buying a stolen firearm. It is also used in gun shows as well when the seller is not an ffl. Both buyer and seller must be present during the call. This is available in Oregon. Buyer and seller must be Oregon residents.

 

[etrain16]

This new law is a joke but I guess maybe some will feel safer now

Exactly - they won't be safer, but as long as they feel safer, that's all that matters to them. I'm sure in their minds criminals will be completely hamstrung by this new law. Boy are they ignorant about how things really work.

 

[LaserMan]

I thought that in order to get an FFL that you have to be in the business of selling guns (the ATF definition).

I have an 01 FFL to do engraving on firearms. It's the same 01 as any gun dealer so that means I can also buy and sell firearms as a dealer, run background checks, etc., but I really only use it for engraving. It may be worth a call to the ATF to see if they would issue an FFL if you told them you were only planning on doing transfers.

 

[bolus]

I have an 01 FFL to do engraving on firearms. It's the same 01 as any gun dealer so that means I can also buy and sell firearms as a dealer, run background checks, etc., but I really only use it for engraving. It may be worth a call to the ATF to see if they would issue an FFL if you told them you were only planning on doing transfers.

Thanks, If this background check crap comes to Oregon I might go ahead and do something like that just to help friends to a cheep easy background check.

 

[Modeler]

There is a form buyer and seller can fill out, call an 800 number and make a legal transfer/background check for $10. This prevents selling to a "prohibited person" and prevents the buyer from buying a stolen firearm. It is also used in gun shows as well when the seller is not an ffl. Both buyer and seller must be present during the call. This is available in Oregon. Buyer and seller must be Oregon residents.

That is available in Oregon because Oregon uses OSP for the background check. Washington uses NICS directly for the background check, the private party option isn't available with NICS and therefore isn't available in Washington. The only option for Washington private party transfers after I-594 is an FFL.

 

[PiratePast40]

One of the gun shop owners was on the news the other night. He was saying that he doesn't want his counter staff wasting time doing transfers for private transactions. There is no money for the business and it takes salaried employees away from profitable sales.

 

[erudne]

The thing to remember is that the WA Dept of Licensing totally controls this 'Law', they can add any number of 'Regulations' to this law, they can link it to your Car, Driver's and Business License, they can set outrageous fees, demand an inspection of your 'Safe Storage' w/o a warrant, as outlined in
Philip Dru: Administrator: A Story of Tomorrow, 1920-1935
Ghost written by Woodrow Wilson, a Fabian Socialist
The story details how an 'Administrator' wages war against Constitutional America and imposes a tyranny via Regulations instead of Constitutional Laws