Washington Eliminates 2nd Amendment

44Brent · Jan 18, 2023

Just sent the following message to ALL representatives and ALL senators in Washington State.
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Subject line for House member: The Curious Case of "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" Bills: HB1346, HB1374, et al.
Subject line for Senate members: The Curious Case of "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" Bills: SB5174, SB6076, , SB6288, et al.
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The Washington legislature currently has a collection of gun-control bills in committees, which are modeled after California laws. The California laws are being challenged in federal courts which comprise the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Since the California laws have been bouncing around the courts for years, their pathway and status serve as an illustrative roadmap for predicting what will happen to the Washington bills, which will inevitably be signed into law by Governor Inslee. I will hereafter refer to the collection of bills as "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" bills, which include the following:

HB1346, HB1374, HB2519, HB2555, HB1068 – SB5062, SB5174, HB2241 - SB6076, HB2240 – SB 6077, SB6288, SB6294

There is a specific law in California which has been going through challenges in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals since 2017, and is now approaching an embarrassingly ignoble end, with the California Attorney General apologizing for the legal arguments he has been making in defending the law. The specific law under challenge is one which bans the sale of high-capacity magazines (3:17-cv-01017-BEN-JLB). What happened to make this case so embarrassing for Attorney General Bonta?

The Supreme Court vacated a ruling by the 9th Circuit of Appeals, which previously upheld the California law. The Supreme Court remanded the case back along with instructions for the 9th Circuit of Appeals to properly apply Supreme Court rulings. See the attached file 2022-08-01-Certified-Copy-of-Judgment.pdf In response, the 9th Circuit Court remanded it back down to the original District Court that had originally issued an injunction blocking enforcement of the law, to rehear the case. See the file attached file 2022-09-23-Order-Vacating-Remanding.pdf
The Attorney General has been ordered to provide evidence of historical analogues from the era of the country's founding, that would justify such a ban.
After conducting an exhaustive search for evidence of historical analogues from the era of the country's founding, the Attorney General could not produce such evidence. But, what he COULD produce was a huge litany of laws aimed specifically at slaves and Indians, examples from European countries in the 1300s, as well as fire-control codes for the storage of gunpowder. The Attorney General now professes to condemn his own recitation of such laws as being "racist". See referenced file https://michellawyers.com/wp-conten...re-Defendants-Survey-of-Relevant-Statutes.pdf

In contrast to the Attorney General of California, Bob Ferguson has more skillfully delayed embarrassment of having to deliver examples of race-based laws in similar ongoing cases in Washington State. Bob Ferguson has pulled in Alliance for Gun Responsibility as an intervenor into Brumback v. Ferguson and Sullivan v. Ferguson, so that they can take the heat for providing discredited race-based laws as justification for a high-capacity magazine ban.

If you want to watch the entertaining weekly circus of what presages Governor Inslees bills, you can follow the ignoble end of one of California's gun control laws as it reaches its logical conclusion of the legal process here. https://michellawyers.com/duncan-v-becerra/

There is one positive outcome of the "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" bills that Governor Inslee will be signing into law, and that is that the Second Amendment Foundation in Bellevue is going to be handed one of its biggest opportunities for a fund-raising campaign in its history. That will inevitably be followed by successful lawsuits that not only terminate the current batch of "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" laws, but also existing gun-control laws.

Stomper · Jan 18, 2023

44Brent said:
Just sent the following message to ALL representatives and ALL senators in Washington State.
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Subject line for House member: The Curious Case of "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" Bills: HB1346, HB1374, et al.
Subject line for Senate members: The Curious Case of "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" Bills: SB5174, SB6076, , SB6288, et al.
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The Washington legislature currently has a collection of gun-control bills in committees, which are modeled after California laws. The California laws are being challenged in federal courts which comprise the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Since the California laws have been bouncing around the courts for years, their pathway and status serve as an illustrative roadmap for predicting what will happen to the Washington bills, which will inevitably be signed into law by Governor Inslee. I will hereafter refer to the collection of bills as "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" bills, which include the following:

HB1346, HB1374, HB2519, HB2555, HB1068 – SB5062, SB5174, HB2241 - SB6076, HB2240 – SB 6077, SB6288, SB6294

There is a specific law in California which has been going through challenges in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals since 2017, and is now approaching an embarrassingly ignoble end, with the California Attorney General apologizing for the legal arguments he has been making in defending the law. The specific law under challenge is one which bans the sale of high-capacity magazines (3:17-cv-01017-BEN-JLB). What happened to make this case so embarrassing for Attorney General Bonta?

The Supreme Court vacated a ruling by the 9th Circuit of Appeals, which previously upheld the California law. The Supreme Court remanded the case back along with instructions for the 9th Circuit of Appeals to properly apply Supreme Court rulings. See the attached file 2022-08-01-Certified-Copy-of-Judgment.pdf In response, the 9th Circuit Court remanded it back down to the original District Court that had originally issued an injunction blocking enforcement of the law, to rehear the case. See the file attached file 2022-09-23-Order-Vacating-Remanding.pdf

The Attorney General has been ordered to provide evidence of historical analogues from the era of the country's founding, that would justify such a ban.

After conducting an exhaustive search for evidence of historical analogues from the era of the country's founding, the Attorney General could not produce such evidence. But, what he COULD produce was a huge litany of laws aimed specifically at slaves and Indians, examples from European countries in the 1300s, as well as fire-control codes for the storage of gunpowder. The Attorney General now professes to condemn his own recitation of such laws as being "racist". See referenced file https://michellawyers.com/wp-conten...re-Defendants-Survey-of-Relevant-Statutes.pdf

In contrast to the Attorney General of California, Bob Ferguson has more skillfully delayed embarrassment of having to deliver examples of race-based laws in similar ongoing cases in Washington State. Bob Ferguson has pulled in Alliance for Gun Responsibility as an intervenor into Brumback v. Ferguson and Sullivan v. Ferguson, so that they can take the heat for providing discredited race-based laws as justification for a high-capacity magazine ban.

If you want to watch the entertaining weekly circus of what presages Governor Inslees bills, you can follow the ignoble end of one of California's gun control laws as it reaches its logical conclusion of the legal process here. https://michellawyers.com/duncan-v-becerra/

There is one positive outcome of the "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" bills that Governor Inslee will be signing into law, and that is that the Second Amendment Foundation in Bellevue is going to be handed one of its biggest opportunities for a fund-raising campaign in its history. That will inevitably be followed by successful lawsuits that not only terminate the current batch of "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" laws, but also existing gun-control laws.

It should be referred to as, "morons see, jackasses keister" laws…..

monkeybutler · Jan 18, 2023

44Brent said:
Just sent the following message to ALL representatives and ALL senators in Washington State.
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Subject line for House member: The Curious Case of "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" Bills: HB1346, HB1374, et al.
Subject line for Senate members: The Curious Case of "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" Bills: SB5174, SB6076, , SB6288, et al.
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The Washington legislature currently has a collection of gun-control bills in committees, which are modeled after California laws. The California laws are being challenged in federal courts which comprise the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Since the California laws have been bouncing around the courts for years, their pathway and status serve as an illustrative roadmap for predicting what will happen to the Washington bills, which will inevitably be signed into law by Governor Inslee. I will hereafter refer to the collection of bills as "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" bills, which include the following:

HB1346, HB1374, HB2519, HB2555, HB1068 – SB5062, SB5174, HB2241 - SB6076, HB2240 – SB 6077, SB6288, SB6294

There is a specific law in California which has been going through challenges in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals since 2017, and is now approaching an embarrassingly ignoble end, with the California Attorney General apologizing for the legal arguments he has been making in defending the law. The specific law under challenge is one which bans the sale of high-capacity magazines (3:17-cv-01017-BEN-JLB). What happened to make this case so embarrassing for Attorney General Bonta?

The Supreme Court vacated a ruling by the 9th Circuit of Appeals, which previously upheld the California law. The Supreme Court remanded the case back along with instructions for the 9th Circuit of Appeals to properly apply Supreme Court rulings. See the attached file 2022-08-01-Certified-Copy-of-Judgment.pdf In response, the 9th Circuit Court remanded it back down to the original District Court that had originally issued an injunction blocking enforcement of the law, to rehear the case. See the file attached file 2022-09-23-Order-Vacating-Remanding.pdf

The Attorney General has been ordered to provide evidence of historical analogues from the era of the country's founding, that would justify such a ban.

After conducting an exhaustive search for evidence of historical analogues from the era of the country's founding, the Attorney General could not produce such evidence. But, what he COULD produce was a huge litany of laws aimed specifically at slaves and Indians, examples from European countries in the 1300s, as well as fire-control codes for the storage of gunpowder. The Attorney General now professes to condemn his own recitation of such laws as being "racist". See referenced file https://michellawyers.com/wp-conten...re-Defendants-Survey-of-Relevant-Statutes.pdf

In contrast to the Attorney General of California, Bob Ferguson has more skillfully delayed embarrassment of having to deliver examples of race-based laws in similar ongoing cases in Washington State. Bob Ferguson has pulled in Alliance for Gun Responsibility as an intervenor into Brumback v. Ferguson and Sullivan v. Ferguson, so that they can take the heat for providing discredited race-based laws as justification for a high-capacity magazine ban.

If you want to watch the entertaining weekly circus of what presages Governor Inslees bills, you can follow the ignoble end of one of California's gun control laws as it reaches its logical conclusion of the legal process here. https://michellawyers.com/duncan-v-becerra/

There is one positive outcome of the "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" bills that Governor Inslee will be signing into law, and that is that the Second Amendment Foundation in Bellevue is going to be handed one of its biggest opportunities for a fund-raising campaign in its history. That will inevitably be followed by successful lawsuits that not only terminate the current batch of "Monkey-See, Monkey-Do" laws, but also existing gun-control laws.

Interesting ideas but the tone, established by the subject line and carried through, might limit their receptiveness to your message.

44Brent · Jan 18, 2023

Of course Democrats are not receptive to messages. That's they I call them "Monkeys". I could call them "Democrat See, Democrat Do,", but they are immune to reason.