Washington County Fair concealed carry

[Cyclone]

Planning on going to the WaCo Fair, are their metal detectors/wanding at the gates and is CHL (with Permit) ok?

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[Caveman Jim]

I went to the Don Henley concert last week in Ridgefield, Washington and was the first time they wanted everyone in line.... Watch while in line & if they're wanding then you will be caught & refused entry.
Kinda felt violated by the TSA....

 

[Cyclone]

Are the doing this at the Oregon Washington county fair?

 

[Caveman Jim]

Are the doing this at the Oregon Washington county fair?

I haven't a clue. Just watch the entrance and go from there is all I can say but it's the way of the future.....
Good luck.

 

[Quartermaster]

My dad just got back. Bag checks, no wands or metal detectors.

 

[Cyclone]

Okay I am going now and will let folks know as well

 

[Mark W.]

If its on county owned property they can not stop legal CHL any more then they could standing in a Park.

 

[TopPinElk]

Okay I am going now and will let folks know as well

How did it go, I'm getting ready to head that way now.

 

[Koda]

I went to the Don Henley concert last week in Ridgefield, Washington and was the first time they wanted everyone in line....

I saw The Cure at the same venue about a month ago, they did a very pathetic bag check and that it, no wanding. I wonder why the venue changed their policy or is it up to the bands management decision?

 

[Cyclone]

No wands or detectors the are only checking bags and strollers

 

[Caveman Jim]

I saw The Cure at the same venue about a month ago, they did a very pathetic bag check and that it, no wanding. I wonder why the venue changed their policy or is it up to the bands management decision?

Yeah, it's probably the band's decision to be honest, we couldn't even take pics of him!!!! But being HOH I got a bye...

 

[Pops1911]

On a similar topic. The wife and I are headed to the Tacoma Dome in October to see Def Lepard. NO CCWs allowed there I discovered by reading the tickets. Never been in the Dome ever. I've read they have metal detectors at all doors. No opinion one way or the other just found this interesting. What to do about the long walk back to the car very late at night now? I'll figure it out.

 

[TopPinElk]

How did it go, I'm getting ready to head that way now.

Was at the fair last night and patrons with a CHL were allowed both by law and signage. I proceeded to ask the lady checking bags if firearms were allowed and she said no, I asked her to read the sign and walked in.

 

[PaulB47]

The wife and I are headed to the Tacoma Dome in October to see Def Lepard. NO CCWs allowed there I discovered by reading the tickets.

This restriction does not sound legal to me. Does the Washington CHL law allow such bans?

Keep in mind gun haters are not deterred by any law prohibiting false statements.

 

[semajg]

This restriction does not sound legal to me. Does the Washington CHL law allow such bans?

Correct. You should be free to enter with a WA CPL, and if you are denied entry, you (in my opinion) would have grounds to sue.

RCW 9.41.300 defines:
(2) Cities, towns, counties, and other municipalities may enact laws and ordinances:
(a) Restricting the discharge of firearms in any portion of their respective jurisdictions where there is a reasonable likelihood that humans, domestic animals, or property will be jeopardized. Such laws and ordinances shall not abridge the right of the individual guaranteed by Article I, section 24 of the state Constitution to bear arms in defense of self or others; and
(b) Restricting the possession of firearms in any stadium or convention center, operated by a city, town, county, or other municipality, except that such restrictions shall not apply to:
(i) Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060; or
(ii) Any showing, demonstration, or lecture involving the exhibition of firearms.

RCW 9.41.300: Weapons prohibited in certain places—Local laws and ordinances—Exceptions—Penalty. (http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.300)

Tacoma dome is Owned and Operated by the City of Tacoma's Public Assembly Facilities Department. Keyword here is "operated".
About Us (http://tacomadome.org/about-us)

This is how CenturyLink gets around the RCW requirement - even though it is a publicy funded/owned stadium, it is operated by a private entity which allows them to ignore the RCW exemption for CPL holders

 

[Freakshow]

Kinda mute now that the fair is over.

Useless bag check.

Sign out front with all the restrictions said Valid CHL welcome.

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

Went last night. They had the same sign they did two years ago, "weapons" are banned but CHL's are allowed.

There were two very obvious gangs there last night. Young kids 15-19.. Two were looking for trouble

I was on high alert but then Washington County leos stepped their game up and had 4 roving patrols near the two huge crowds of red and blue/black clothes wearing "gangs", three officers per patrol squad, it certainly disrupted the tense atmosphere. I still kept my eyes out for them and myself but it was all good after that.

The fair was fun, but I quickly remembered why I make it a point not to go, I easily spent $100+ in less than two hours (could have gone towards ammo instead), WAY too many young disrespectful kids, long lines, trash everywhere.. Its not for me.

 

[pacnw]

Correct. You should be free to enter with a WA CPL, and if you are denied entry, you (in my opinion) would have grounds to sue.

RCW 9.41.300 defines:
(2) Cities, towns, counties, and other municipalities may enact laws and ordinances:
(a) Restricting the discharge of firearms in any portion of their respective jurisdictions where there is a reasonable likelihood that humans, domestic animals, or property will be jeopardized. Such laws and ordinances shall not abridge the right of the individual guaranteed by Article I, section 24 of the state Constitution to bear arms in defense of self or others; and
(b) Restricting the possession of firearms in any stadium or convention center, operated by a city, town, county, or other municipality, except that such restrictions shall not apply to:
(i) Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060; or
(ii) Any showing, demonstration, or lecture involving the exhibition of firearms.

RCW 9.41.300: Weapons prohibited in certain places—Local laws and ordinances—Exceptions—Penalty. (http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.300)

Tacoma dome is Owned and Operated by the City of Tacoma's Public Assembly Facilities Department. Keyword here is "operated".
About Us (http://tacomadome.org/about-us)

This is how CenturyLink gets around the RCW requirement - even though it is a publicy funded/owned stadium, it is operated by a private entity which allows them to ignore the RCW exemption for CPL holders

Another way they get around it is to lease or rent out the venue to whomever is using it. This then allows the public entity to be removed from the decision and the renter/lessee can make the policy for their term of use at said venue.

 

[Cyclone]

sorry to dig this thread up again-getting ready to go to the Oregon State fair-are they wanding or using metal detector here? While I have my CHL and plan on carrying, just don't want to be hassled.

thanks

 

[Stomper]

I went to the OSF a couple years back, even went to the ZZ Top concert in the fairgrounds amphitheater fully armed with my CCW. You'll be fine.