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Washington Congressman Denny Heck gun control letter

Discussion in 'Firearm Legislation & Activism' started by bmtm09, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. bmtm09

    bmtm09 olympia, wa Well-Known Member

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    I thought I would take a moment to share my received letter from Congressman Denny Heck . I wrote the congressman to voice my opinion on his opinion of guns and gun owners....The quoted, bold part is from Denny Heck...

    "Closing the gun show loophole and banning assault weapons are common sense measures. Requiring a follow-up from the intelligence community when an individual on the no-fly list tries to buy a gun is a no-brainer. These steps are supported by a majority of Americans. No, they won’t stop all acts of gun violence, but they will prevent some. It’s clearly worth it. Congress should do its job".......It is thinking like that that will never fix our issues. Banning certain types of guns or any guns won't stop these kinds of attacks. Better intelligence on extremists groups and proper prosecution of offenders will. Stop blaming the tools and start going after the people using them. If someone were to drive a car into a large crowd of people and kill 50 of them while wounding another 50 would you put forth a proposal to ban cars? Common Sense goes a long way in dealing with these types of problems, joining a bandwagon of banning assault weapons, will make you popular in certain circles but will not solve the problem.


    Someone who has common sense

    and this is the response I received:

    Dear Mr. .........,

    Thank you for contacting me to share your views on the issue of gun violence in the wake of the Orlando shooting. I appreciate you taking the time to make me aware of your position on this very important issue.

    Our nation has endured a tragic epidemic of gun violence and mass shootings, most recently in Orlando. Though there will never be a single law – or set of laws – that eliminates all gun violence in our country, I believe that Congress has a responsibility to take pragmatic steps to make our communities safer. The House of Representatives should take a comprehensive approach toward gun safety so that we can address issues like mental health, background checks, and ties to terrorist organizations without infringing upon the rights of responsible citizens.

    I take my oath to defend the Constitution – including the Second Amendment – very seriously. Rest assured that I will continue to work with my colleagues in a bipartisan fashion to address the epidemic of gun violence facing this country in a way that respects the rights of law-abiding gun owners.

    As Congress continues to evaluate proposals in the coming weeks and months, please know that my first priority will always be the safety and prosperity of our communities, our families, and especially our children. Again, thank you for contacting me about this important issue. Please do not hesitate to contact me again on this or any other matter.

    Denny Heck
    Member of Congress
  2. waglockfan

    waglockfan Puget Sound Well-Known Member

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    Thus turd, I pray, will be a one term usurper.
  3. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    People like this should never be re-elected, yet it happens all the time. I wonder if his view would change if someday he found himself the victim of a terrorist attack, in a gun free zone, with no one around him armed to take on the bad guys. He'd better hope, for his own sake, that his 'common sense' measures don't end up putting him and his constituents in that very spot.

    People like him are a threat to this country. He needs to go away. The voters need to be the ones that do it.
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  4. Fordcragar

    Fordcragar Renton, Washington Active Member

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    One of the problems living in the northwest, to many liberals. This guy sounds like he will say anything he hopes that you'll believe.
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  5. bmtm09

    bmtm09 olympia, wa Well-Known Member

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    i agree..this was the third letter I wrote him and his first response....Typical politician
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  6. Osarion

    Osarion Snohomish County, WA Well-Known Member

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    A canned response if ever I saw one (and I would know, I write canned responses!)

    Note how not one single thing in that letter couldn't be applied to anyone writing him about the recent gun control craze. He maybe wrote the first few sentences... maybe.

    All in all, he didn't bother giving you a real reply.
  7. GOG

    GOG State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    That reply is an example of what I've received when I contact my "representatives" as well. They don't care, they don't listen and they have their own agenda and that's to gather power and wealth. So I no longer bother to write or call, there's no point. I vote, but that doesn't really mean anything anymore either. The elections are manipulated and we're treated like subjects.

  8. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    Dear Rick,

    Thank you for your recent email about the tragic events that took place in Orlando on June 12, 2016. On that day, a lone gunman motivated by hate and a desire to terrorize America took the lives of 49 innocent people and injured 53 more.

    What happened in Orlando was both a terrorist attack and a hate crime against the Latino and LGBT communities. As we continue to keep the victims of Orlando and their loved ones in our thoughts and prayers, our national conversation has turned to multiple topics including tolerance, domestic security and access to guns.

    I stand with Oregonians who believe that law-abiding gun owners should be able to exercise their Second Amendment rights responsibly. I recognize the importance of gun ownership to security, hunting, target shooting, and gun collecting.

    I also believe that it is simple common sense to restrict access to guns by criminals, by deeply mentally disturbed individuals, and by individuals contemplating acts of terrorism.

    These views mirror those of most Oregonians, who support both the Second Amendment and closing background check loopholes. In fact, the majority of Oregonians voted in favor of a ballot initiative that expanded background checks to help close the gun show loophole over a decade and a half ago. I believe we can take action to improve the background check system nationally while fully respecting the rights of law-abiding gun owners.

    Thank you, again, for sharing your views on this topic with me. I will be sure to keep your views in mind as the Senate continues to consider gun-related legislation.

    All my best,

    Jeffrey A. Merkley
    United States Senator
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  9. GOG

    GOG State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, he's a POS too.
  10. Cigarlvr313

    Cigarlvr313 Washougal Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I won't even waste my time contacting my reps...........
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  11. Hayshaker

    Hayshaker Irrigon Active Member

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    YUP !! Got the exact same thing from JEFF. Hard telling how may other people got the same response. Wyden won't even respond. Both are the south end of north bound horses. Only way to turn them around VOTE !!
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  12. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    Come on natural causes!! We're pulling for you against this POS!!
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  13. bmtm09

    bmtm09 olympia, wa Well-Known Member

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    LOL too funny
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  14. Diamondback

    Diamondback A cold, wet green Hell Well-Known Member

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    Typical Machine Pol: "Screw you, I know better than you. Vote for me anyway even though you're too stupid to BREATHE without somebody telling you what to do."
  15. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    Common sense for the children terror. Yep, that aught to do it.
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  16. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    I got that one too.
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  17. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Our two wicked witches of the PNW seldom answer my emails anymore and when they do they pledge to keep their constituents safe by enacting more legislation, that does not work.
    I asked them both to start doing their job and listen to ALL THEIR CONSTITUENTS, not just the ones who elected them!!! I think they put me on a list....:eek:
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  18. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    Urge Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D) to Oppose ALL Gun Control This Week

    Dear Richard,

    A couple of weeks ago, Democrats made a mockery of the House by sitting on the floor, whining, and, metaphorically, holding their breath until they turned blue.

    In response, House Speaker Paul Ryan gave these petulant children exactly what they want: a vote to impose gun control.

    The House is epected to vote this week on anti-gun legislation (H.R. 5611) that is similar to bills that were already voted on in the Senate -- a proposal that would allow Attorney General Loretta Lynch to impose a gun ban against people who have committed no crimes, but nevertheless, are on a government watch list. ryancavesonguncontrol.png

    Of course, the Orlando shooter was not on a “no fly,” “selectee,” or even a consolidated watch list.

    He was exonerated by the FBI. He passed background checks. He bought his guns legally in a gun store. Every single gun control law that had been put in place to stop terrorists like him failed.

    But there is one thing that would have stopped him. If the Pulse night club had NOT been a gun-free zone, lives could have been saved -- as evidenced by concealed carriers who successfully protected lives last year at a Youngstown, Ohio bar and, more recently, at a bar in South Carolina.

    Of course, anti-gun Democrats ignore examples of good people using their guns to stop mass shootings. And, they ignore the fact that the Orlando gunman openly admitted he was killing in support of ISIS.

    Not only do they IGNORE the terror connection, radicals like Barack Obama continue to move heaven and earth to import hundreds of embedded terrorists who simply cannot be properly vetted.

    Sadly, Obama has been able to enlist help from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell -- and now, House Speaker Paul Ryan -- to make the recent Orlando tragedy “about guns,” rather than about the growing terror threat within our borders.

    Obviously, it’s not about guns, but making it so only energizes Hillary’s political purposes going into the election.

    Make no mistake about it: none of the gun control proposals that will be voted on this week are constitutional.

    And while they are all aimed at stopping GUN PURCHASES -- thus restricting Second Amendment rights -- none of them are aimed at stopping potential terrorists who buy a truckload of fertilizer (as in Oklahoma City) or box cutters (as on 9-11).

    Republicans Twisting Arms to Pass Gun Control “Lite”

    House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) is the sponsor of the gun control package that will be voted on this week (H.R. 5611). And, according to press reports, the NRA supports this legislation.

    What this means is that most Republicans are going to support this gun control “lite” bill -- even though most Democrats will oppose it because they don’t think it goes far enough.

    This means there is a possibility that this anti-gun legislation can be defeated if the truly pro-gun Republicans (who vote NO on all gun control) are joined by the anti-gun Democrats (who will vote against it because they want stricter gun control).

    But you can be sure about this: The virulently anti-gun crowd ONLY cares about demonizing guns and your Second Amendment rights.

    They don’t care that all the proposals on the table -- including H.R. 5611 -- would allow Loretta Lynch to impose a gun ban against people who have never committed a crime, based on subjective standards.

    Remember that the Justice Department has already “found” that gun owners in general pose a high risk of domestic terrorism.

    Due Process: Only for the Rich

    Republicans who support this bill claim there is language that purports to give due process. But the “procedures” which supposedly grant “due process” in this Orwellian legislation are jokes.

    We all know, from the Veterans Disarmament Act, that the government can use the full weight of its taxpayer-financed bureaucracy to take away people’s guns -- as has happened to more than 250,000 veterans.

    And so when the government goes after your gun rights -- if you can’t come up with tens of thousands of dollars upfront that will be required to defend yourself and you have no taxpayer financed lawyers, unlike most criminal defendants -- you’re going to lose your guns. Period.

    Hence, the “due process” that McCarthy’s bill purports to give is only for the wealthy, for those who can afford an “O.J.” defense.

    Not only that, under judicial precedent, Attorney General Lynch could deem all of the information relevant to the case as classified, meaning that your lawsuit would be like a fighting with a blindfold, and most of the important meetings would be in camera between the judge and the Justice Department.

    So you’ll not only be going up against the immense wealth of the U.S. government, you’ll be fighting blindfolded as well.

    This is not a pro-Second Amendment bill, and the passage of this legislation -- or any gun control -- will allow the anti-gun Bloomberg crowd to “put points on the board.”

    This is true even if insatiable Democrats pretend it is not enough.

    Any gun control will concede Obama’s argument that “guns are the problem.” And it will position the anti-gun Left for its next set of gun control demands.

    So please urge Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D) to vote against ANY legislation containing ANY gun ban that comes to the floor this week.

    And tell Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D) to support strengthening concealed carry reciprocity laws instead.


    Michael Hammond
    Legislative Counsel

    P.S. Remember when the Democrats sat on the House floor two weeks ago? The House leadership is going to reward them by bringing up a gun control bill. But Democrats don’t think it goes far enough, leaving stupid Republicans holding the bag for passing gun control.

    So please urge Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D) to vote against all anti-gun legislation this week, but to support the strengthening of concealed carry reciprocity laws instead.
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  19. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Factoring in the recent Orlando shooting, the monthly average deaths related to so called mass shootings between the years 1982 and 2016 is 1.6 deaths.

    There are >6000 deaths per month related to Hospital Aquired Infections unrelated to the original visit.

    Those holding office have sold their souls and suffer the strong delusion running rampant in our nation. There can be no other explanation as to why intelligent people can drift so far from reality in mass. What is even more peculiar are everyday citizens who blindly follow the words of these people.

    Pay attention to the strong delusion...we were told it would be coming.
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  20. RW-Ore

    RW-Ore Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Same crap I got from the looser.
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