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Washington Arms Collectors -- Why should I join?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by CarlMc, Jan 27, 2011.

  1. CarlMc

    CarlMc Safely north of Seattle Active Member

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    I've poked around a little, but since I rarely have time to go to their gun shows, what other reasons could make it worth my while/money to be a member?
     
  2. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Well, if you don't go to the shows I can't think of a reason other than to get the magazine. Being a member does guarantee that the person buying/selling has passed the background check or they can't belong. As you can see below I'm a member but I sometimes go to the shows too.

    80 MILLION gun owners didn't shoot anyone today, a few criminals did!!

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    The "Feedback Score" is low by 4, not everyone posts it I guess.

    Deen
    NRA Benefactor/Recruiter
    Washington Arms Collector member
    South West Washington Arms Collector member
     
  3. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    They have a pretty decent newsletter (for the most part) - although, I don't think that alone would justify the membership cost. They are a well-known Pro-2A advocacy group - although, there are probably cheaper, more effective groups out there to join, if that's your motivation.

    Mostly, it's worth it for going to shows - if you aren't doing that, I'm not sure why you'd join.
     
  4. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    You can still go to the shows to buy parts and accessories,which are at some what of a good price.But I quit going and haven't re-upped because the prices just don't make it worth the time.

    AMMO,there is literally TONS of all conceivable types of ammo there.Except 45lc and 10mm lol

    If you lived close to the respective fair grounds,and wanted to go once every 2 months to a show,and not have to wait in line,it may be worth it.

    But for my once a year,bother to go to see how high the prices have gotten at the show?
    Not so much worth it.
     
  5. owdee tt nl

    owdee tt nl Edmonds or Renton Member

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    I've thought about getting a membership as well. If the shows are the only major benefit I'll have to think about it. I guess you do get the magazine as well
     
  6. Ranb

    Ranb Belfair, WA Active Member

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    I was not able to get the WAC to actively lobby for the new silencer use bill. Bills 5112 and 1016 are the only bills in a long time that would restore our right to use a firearm in the State. They did send letters to the committees hearing the bills, but little more than that.

    The Washington Counsel of Police and Sheriffs (WACOPS) did a much better job of supporting the bill. They sent a representative (Brian Wurst) to speak at the House and Senate hearings.

    Ranb
     
  7. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    That's too bad - maybe they only get active when gun shows are threatened?
     
  8. Ranb

    Ranb Belfair, WA Active Member

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    Their lobbyist thought that the political climate was unsuitable for lobbying for a bill that eased restrictions on firearms use. He suggested that I wait until after the election as he thought the climate would change, it did not. I do not know what the WAC agenda is.

    Ranb
     
  9. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    They really said that? When did he think the "climate" would be better?
    That has to be one of the dumbest thing I have heard.
    The government will always make it a bad "climate" for gun issues
     
  10. Ranb

    Ranb Belfair, WA Active Member

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    The lobbyist thought the climate would improve after the next election (he said this back in early 2010). The climate did improve, but it had nothing to do with the election and everything to do with people contacting and meeting with legislators to convince them that silencer use was something the state should allow. Bill 1016 has about three times the sponsors as bill 1604; this was a result of the small grass roots effort that took place during 2010 as far as I know. I know that my Reps refused to sponsor the bill until after I met with them to discuss it.

    Ranb
     
  11. rustyfirst

    rustyfirst The great northwet New Member

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    As a 20 year life member and former tableholder at the WAC shows, I would ask why would you ever want to join an organization that does it's members so wrong? We have not one but TWO LAWYERS running the Board of Directors! These lying thieves should be the first to go! Have you asked how many members have been arrested lately? You should really ask them how many have been charged after being arrested! The board of WAC needs to be RECALLED! WAC is working with the BATFE to lock up as many 2nd Amendment believers as possible! LEE BULL and JOHN RODABAUGH BOTH need to be removed from this organizations board of directors and banned from membership for their past mis-deeds! I, personally, will use my life membership to campaign for ANY OTHER organization! Google GUN SHOW BANDIT if you'd like the true story of what is going on at WAC these days!
     
  12. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Man don't sugar coat it brother,tell us how you really feel.
    And I am not doubting a word of your post.
     
  13. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    You got stopped for expired vehicle tabs, a violation, you were found with illegal weapons and admit to using pot. That caused the feds to charge you with illegal drug possession under Federal law and now poor you can't own or buy guns? Oh, poor baby.

    Poor me, I broke the law and now I'm looking to blame someone else!! I'm GLAD I will never see you at a WAC show!

    I hope they ban you here too!!


    80 MILLION gun owners didn't shoot anyone today, a few criminals did!!

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    The "Feedback Score" is low by 4, not everyone posts it I guess.

    Deen
    NRA Benefactor/Recruiter
    Washington Arms Collector member
    South West Washington Arms Collector member
     
  14. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    You want to voice your opinion, here is your chance.

    A reminder - Tuesday night, the 8th, at 7pm is a regularly scheduled
    meeting of the Board of the Washington Arms Collectors and as such is an
    opportunity for members (that would be you) to meet the Directors and
    share your views and opinions with them on both current matters
    (elections irregularities) and past events (expulsion of Dan Franks
    contrary to WAC's own ByLaws), and what you would like to see from WAC
    going forward - these opportunities are available before and after the
    meeting, and should the board ask for comment, during the meeting.

    In my opinion, and perhaps that of some others, the Board has of late
    gone seriously astray and desperately needs to hear from the membership
    - an option almost always preferable to the drama and excitement of
    recall elections and other such fun.

    The meeting will be held at the WAC offices in Renton (amazingly close
    to the yummy Jimmy Mac's). The offices are located at

    935 Powell Ave SW Suite 120
    Renton, WA 98057

    Phone: (425) 255-8410
    Fax: (425) 255-8946

    I strongly recommend calling ahead for directions. And happily enough,
    if you're not a WAC member already, you can swing down either Monday or
    Tuesday before the meeting and sign up and *poof* you're a WAC member
    and can buy guns at shows, get the newsletter, etc!!

    I certainly hope to see many of you there...and to share a beverage with
    you before or after at Jimmy Mac's (yes, I like bbq...)

    Best of Wishes,

    Ray Carter
    Seattle, WA

    FYI from a friend
     
  15. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I wish we had the full story but the way I read the by-laws the board can expel anyone for any reason by a majority vote of the board. If that's so then the expulsion was OK as far as the procedure.

    80 MILLION gun owners didn't shoot anyone today, a few criminals did!!

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    The "Feedback Score" is low by 4, not everyone posts it I guess.

    Deen
    NRA Benefactor/Recruiter
    Washington Arms Collector member
    South West Washington Arms Collector member
     
  16. rodell

    rodell Newcastle, WA Active Member

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    I'm a member, with my primary purpose being shows and to support the educational outreach. I do not see the organization as a lobbying group - there's too much internal strife and too many members without strong leadership. I don't hold every firearm organization responsible for 2A lobbying, but, they should be anti-2A, either!

    It does seem to me there is an abundance of infighting, name calling, and irregularities at WAC. That seems to happen whenever there's a large group of people and leadership isn't forced to change. (Term limits, anyone?) The "old boy" network that develops is amazing.
     
  17. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    I am glad gun shows in my area are free from further restriction from a "pro gun group"...................
     
  18. Scott

    Scott Battle Ground Well-Known Member

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    I would join but I won't because their shows are hours away. I thought Washington Arms Collectors would be state wide and not just by Seattle. I think it should be Seattle Arms Collectors.

    I think they are also missing out on lots of sales and members just because they are so far away and it is not worth the drive unless I saved over a $100 bucks because of gas and time.
     
  19. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Yah, I suppose having to prove you can own guns is too much of a burden for some people. When I go there at least I'm assured that everyone buying/selling a weapon there has at least a CPL or passed the background check.

    80 MILLION gun owners didn't shoot anyone today, a few criminals did!

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    The "Feedback Score" is low by 4, not everyone posts it I guess.

    Deen
    NRA Benefactor/Recruiter
    Washington Arms Collector member
    South West Washington Arms Collector member
     
  20. Scott

    Scott Battle Ground Well-Known Member

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    I am confused what this topic is about? Is there any info on the allegations to this post? I am just interested.

    Thanks,

    Scott