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Want to get my first 1911

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by ducrider, Jul 5, 2016.

  1. ducrider

    ducrider Canyonville, OR Active Member

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    Hey guys, looking for my first 1911 right now, specifically looking at sti 4" models, I want to get it in 9mm and put it in rotation for cc. My question is if anyone has experience with the sti difference between the double stack and single stack grips and how much of a difference there really is, I've read it's only a 1/4 inch bigger for the double stack but what does it feel like in the hand, right now I rotate between the HK vp9/p2000 and the s&w shield, I'm looking at the hex tac 1911/2011 and maybe the Costa ludus 2011, would even consider the duty one or tactical ss, any experience would help
     
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  2. coop44

    coop44 Tacoma ,WA Well-Known Member

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    here is my foster single stack, stainless, railed integral plunger tube and mag well, still haven't decided on sights. If price isnt an issue get a doublestack mag 1911, the mags for doublestacks get a little pricey. That being said if I was going that route I would build one up from a caspian/foster frame. Bear in mind that the 1911 is one of the most customizable guns ever made. Why buy a complete gun only to wind up with a bag of stock parts?
    Btw some really great winning competition guns have been built using their frames. (They aren't the new guys on the gun scene). Call them and ask to speak to Walt.
    But of course that is if price isnt an issue. The only hurdle is finding a decent gunsmith, and deciding what parts.
     
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  3. ducrider

    ducrider Canyonville, OR Active Member

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    Thanks, I would say max price would be $2000/2500 tops really, there are really no local gunsmiths I would trust around here, I will have to look around though and see what I can find, I will look into those frames,
     
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    coop44 Tacoma ,WA Well-Known Member

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  5. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Go to a gun store and handle the two. It's a bit hard to tell you what something feels like - my hands are very large so what is great for me may not be for you.

    Single stack is easier to conceal.
     
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  6. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    I happen to know a really skilled 1911 gunsmith that has built many, many 1911's. And not just buying parts and snapping them together with a dremel in hand..
    I have built quite a few using Caspian frames, also several using JEM frames and slides. JEM being my favorite to work with.
     
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  7. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Sub Light Speed Well-Known Member

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    I have built several of the STI Double stack 2011 series of the 1911! If you are comfortable with a Glock, they will feel about the same, width wise! They are a few ounces heavier, but that's not a bad thing! I have not done one in 9 mm yet, but the wife is thinking she might want me to build her one! Honestly, with your budget, I would check Fusion Firearms and see what blows your skirt up! Other then that, You can always build one your self! If you have any questions when ordering a kit or having one made, don't hesitate to ask or PM me, I have a ton of experience and can give tips and tricks as well as advice on which parts to look for and which to avoid. I had Fusion quote me $2800 for a trick 2011 series 10 mm with all the cool extras, so you can do pretty good for your budget!
     
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    Ura-Ki Sub Light Speed Well-Known Member

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    A little Eye candy I swiped of the interwebs! This Is what I see in my wicked little mind when you say Commander Size double stack 2011 STI.
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  9. bbbass

    bbbass La Grande Well-Known Member

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    My experience is that a 1/4" makes a heck of a lot of difference. Best idea would be to shoot a double stack first. Since you are carrying a Shield, there is quite a lot of difference between the two. And what feels good in the gun shop may not shoot well for you in the field. When at the range, standard target shooting may reveal some problems but it would be best to draw and fire as in simulating some self defense situations. I say that because you wrote that you plan on carrying it. Shooting in defense needs to be very instinctive and natural - it would not be a good time to have handling problems reveal themselves.
     
  10. ducrider

    ducrider Canyonville, OR Active Member

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    Yeah, good idea, I carry the shield in the summer but a vp9 in the winter, so I'm used to a bigger grip, I'm gonna go down and check out some of the 2011's here pretty soon and see what I think, might just stick with a 1911,
     
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  11. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Sub Light Speed Well-Known Member

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    Not as different as people think when measuring grip thickness, The STI and Para have thin grip panels compared to standard size 1911 single stacks!
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    bbbass La Grande Well-Known Member

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    Oh man, that's a huge grip difference. Some folks hands/skills just won't accept going up in size. Me, I can't go down w/o seriously being uncomfortable and I don't have big hands.;)
     
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    ducrider Canyonville, OR Active Member

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    Thanks for the pic, really shows the difference
     
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  14. Kristina

    Kristina Portland, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    That 1/4" makes a huge difference for me, but I have small hands. I own a Colt Commader and have handled and fired numerous other 1911s, but when I shot a double stack 1911 (I think it was a Para) I couldn't empty the magazine fast enough to get it out of my hands. It kind of felt like trying to hold onto the wrong end of a baseball bat covered in grease.
     
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    Diamondback A cold, wet green Hell Well-Known Member

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    BTDT too... I'm a smaller-height guy and can't wrap my mitts around a double-stack, while my usual carry is a Government with plain ol' milsurp GI plastic grips. For me to be able to hold a P14 I have to completely take off both the grips and their bushings...
     
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  16. ducrider

    ducrider Canyonville, OR Active Member

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    Yeah, I really need to figure out what I want, I'm gonna go to Medford and check out the double stack sti 2011's and go from there
     
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  17. Pops1911

    Pops1911 Cinebar/Issaquah Well-Known Member

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    You got that 1911 yet? The suspense is killing me.
     
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  18. ducrider

    ducrider Canyonville, OR Active Member

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    Not yet, just haven't had time, I live in Canyonville, a town of 1400 and just have gone to Medford yet to really compare the ds and single stack yet, but I did check out some Springfield 1911's at the grand opening of the sportsmans warehouse in roseburg
     
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  19. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Man, a 1911 being chambered in 9mm is such heresy. John Browning would roll over in his grave.

    If you want a good 9mm, you should get a something like a CZ 75 or Sig Sauer. They would also be far more modern guns.

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  20. ducrider

    ducrider Canyonville, OR Active Member

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    So I decided what I want and purchased it and should be here in a couple days, will post pics when I get it