WA - Vancouver Man arrested after shooting person breaking into his vehicle

[RicInOR]

KOIN

Man arrested after shooting person breaking into his vehicle

A 33-year-old man was arrested after he shot a person trying to break into his vehicle and damaging it with a shovel in Vancouver on Tuesday, authorities said.

www.koin.com

" Cantrell told authorities confronted the man trying to break in and shot him multiple times. "

The Columbian

Vancouver man arrested in driveway shooting; one person in critical condition

A Vancouver man was arrested Tuesday after allegedly shooting a male who he said was breaking into his vehicle in his driveway.

www.columbian.com

Wonder what the full story is....

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[The B]

Wonder what the full story is....

some folks just dun fed the fck up

not smart, but kind of understandable.

 

[Zoolander]

I read that this morning. I understand the lack of castle doctrine in the state but it is frustrating (like everything else) that property crimes are now so low of a priority police don't even come out but when defend your property you go to jail.

So the enforcers can't enforce and the punishment for enforcing yourself is worse than that of the criminal. Crime pays and abiding by the law costs.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Shovel came in to play. Self defense may be plausible.

 

[The B]

Shovel came in to play. Self defense may be plausible.

also noted that and wondered.. either the cops were jackasses or he said some stupid sht.

the only sort of things you say to the cops in this situation is "my life was in jeopardy, so i defended myself. ill say nothing more without an attorney. im now invoking my 4th and 5th, let me know when i am free to go."

 

[Jay Walk]

I hope the shooter walks, eff these crack heads.


VANCOUVER, Wash. (KPTV) – A violent dispute in Vancouver has left one man in jail and another in the hospital in critical condition. Vancouver Police said just before 2:00 a.m. on June 21, they received a call from 33-year-old Jacob Cantrell who said that another man was breaking into his car with a shovel. Cantrell also admitted that he shot the man several times.

"I heard at least seven shots ring out and you knew it was a gun right away and my husband heard squealing tires prior to that," Julie Engstron, a neighbor said. One of the bullets hit her RV.

"I have to live with that so I'll remember this night and our neighborhood has never been like this," Engstron said. Cantrell was arrested and is charged with assault. The man he shot is in critical condition and police have not yet released his name.

FOX 12 spoke with some of the man's friend's who were at the scene where he was shot and they said what happened doesn't make

 

[Knobgoblin]

also noted that and wondered.. either the cops were jackasses or he said some stupid sht.

the only sort of things you say to the cops in this situation is "my life was in jeopardy, so i defended myself. ill say nothing more without an attorney. im now invoking my 4th and 5th, let me know when i am free to go."

Gunfire always attracts so much unwanted attention.

 

[Jay Walk]

also noted that and wondered.. either the cops were jackasses or he said some stupid sht.

the only sort of things you say to the cops in this situation is "my life was in jeopardy, so i defended myself. ill say nothing more without an attorney. im now invoking my 4th and 5th, let me know when i am free to go."

Local Deputy said to my brother after reporting some dirtbag on his property
"Shoot him and then toss a screwdriver on the ground"
That's no sheet.

 

[American123]

What's right and what's the law are not always the same.

 

[The B]

Local Deputy said to my brother after reporting some dirtbag on his property
"Shoot him and then toss a screwdriver on the ground"
That's no sheet.

that deputy is a goddamn detriment to society. is he going to be the investigator and prosecutor when that happens? no, he wont be.

 

[Alexx1401]

So little info so real hard to say yet. I noticed it said detectives interviewed the shooter then arrested him. If the shooter kept talking after his rights were read? He may have talked himself into jail. MANY just have no way to keep their yap shut after something like this. I have said for a good while this is going to become common though. When people who work get a belly full of scum and the Police will do nothing? Some will start to just shoot scum.

 

[arakboss]

The half glass full view, the victim won't be digging his way into anyone else's car for a little while.

 

[RicInOR]

Fox12 had some 'neighbors' on this morning - said they didn't like/feared the homeowner.

Court documents tell different story after Vancouver man claims to have shot car prowler

A violent dispute in Vancouver has left one man in jail and another in the hospital in critical condition.

www.kptv.com

""He whips around the trees ... he's on his roof with his lawn chairs...."
"My husband and I purchased two guns because he's been scaring us, he hasn't threatened us directly but we don't say anything to him and we don't make any movement towards him just in case, we're scared," Engstron said.


I am guessing the homeowner is not a liberal, and probably not a BIPOC.




I don't think killing someone for breaking into your car, that you are not in, is justified. But we don't know the whole story here -
could the bad actor attacked the homeowner once discovered breaking in?

 

[Alexx1401]

Fox12 had some 'neighbors' on this morning - said they didn't like/feared the homeowner.

Court documents tell different story after Vancouver man claims to have shot car prowler

A violent dispute in Vancouver has left one man in jail and another in the hospital in critical condition.

www.kptv.com

""He whips around the trees ... he's on his roof with his lawn chairs...."
"My husband and I purchased two guns because he's been scaring us, he hasn't threatened us directly but we don't say anything to him and we don't make any movement towards him just in case, we're scared," Engstron said.


I am guessing the homeowner is not a liberal, and probably not a BIPOC.




I don't think killing someone for breaking into your car, that you are not in, is justified. But we don't know the whole story here -
could the bad actor attacked the homeowner once discovered breaking in?

If his neighbors were afraid of him that is not a good sign. Now is it possible he lived next to a couple snowflakes who "feared" him because they saw a gun? Maybe but, does not sound like its that simple. This will be interesting to hear as more comes out about this.

 

[xtratoy]

Here is one way to look at it.

 

[Yarome]

For his sake I sure hope he was in some way threatened with the shovel. Use of lethal force isn't protected under defense of property.

Remembering that guy that shot another mans pitbull that was attacking his foofy lap dog yapper. Dogs are "property" under the law so use of force againt the pitbull was prosecutable. I don't necessarily agree. Even though one less yapper dog in the world doesn't break my heart, "Life" is "life". Protection of property.. I have my own feelings on that too, but we DO choose to live where we live and have to accept the bad along with the good.

On Edit: Before I get flamed, I happen to love dogs. It's just genetically manipulated pocket yappers... I mean... do they still count as "dogs"? Really??

 

[American123]

Fox12 had some 'neighbors' on this morning - said they didn't like/feared the homeowner.

Court documents tell different story after Vancouver man claims to have shot car prowler

A violent dispute in Vancouver has left one man in jail and another in the hospital in critical condition.

www.kptv.com

""He whips around the trees ... he's on his roof with his lawn chairs...."
"My husband and I purchased two guns because he's been scaring us, he hasn't threatened us directly but we don't say anything to him and we don't make any movement towards him just in case, we're scared," Engstron said.


I am guessing the homeowner is not a liberal, and probably not a BIPOC.




I don't think killing someone for breaking into your car, that you are not in, is justified. But we don't know the whole story here -
could the bad actor attacked the homeowner once discovered breaking in?

That neighbor sounds like a giant prick. "Oh no, the neighbor is on his roof with a law chair, we better go buy guns because his existence scares us."

By their own admission, he wan't threatening. These people don't sound rational and probably had some political signs for the FUBAR situation in the oval office.

 

[The B]

Here is one way to look at it.

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exactly.

and i can have great compassion and understanding for someone and their fcked up life circumstances... all while unloading 17+1 rounds of 147gr. HST into 'em, if they come at me w their bullsht.

ill feel bad for them. gotta be alive to feel bad for someone.

 

[m8112]

It might be a case of opening your PIE HOLE and talking yourself into prison. Remember to say Officer I fully intend to cooperate after I talk to a attorney NOTHING MORE.

 

[Zoolander]

Well then....

Court docs contradict story of Vancouver homeowner who shot a man he claimed was breaking into his car

A police probable cause statement suggests the victim was not a car prowler, and the shooting arose from a confrontation between the two men.

www.kgw.com

Also, props to the KGW editor who forgot to take the profanity out.

Cliff notes - person 1 was driving his loud truck up and down the street and person 2 didn't like it so person 2 shot him. The car prowl story was a farce.