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WA full auto ownership?

Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by Stumps, Apr 25, 2010.

  1. Stumps

    Stumps Ashford, WA Member

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    I know that the state of WA banned the transfer of machine guns in the state in 1994. So if you had it you could keep it and if you decided to sell it you have to do it to an out of state party. I understand all this, but have a question. If the full auto belongs to a corporation and not an individual could you purchase the corporation ( and in doing so, all property held buy the corporation) and take possession of the NFA items? You should be exempt from the NFA taxes as the NFA items are assets of the corporation and not an individual. Maybe this is all wishful thinking, but if I found someone that went the corporation route would this be a legal way of obtaining Machine Guns already inside the state of WA?
     
  2. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Good question. Subscribing for the answer.
     
  3. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Me Two.. it would be great to discover a "corporation loophole" ;)
     
  4. TonsOfOregonBrass

    TonsOfOregonBrass Sandy, OR Active Member

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    I can call the ATF tomorrow and inquire. I am guessing they are going to want their hands on the transfer tax though.

    as for washifornia, that is something to ask a lawyer about. My guess is they are not going to like that. and washifornia has a history of saying yeah i know what the law says, but we are going to do it this way because we know what is best.
     
  5. tjwong

    tjwong PDX Member

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    I beleive that Class three weapons in Washington are not allowed, but get this you can own a suppressor but you can't install it on a weapon to use it.
     
  6. Stumps

    Stumps Ashford, WA Member

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    Yes, full-auto is no longer allowed. But if you had it in state prior to 1994 you could keep it. I am looking to see if buying a corporation established by another person would be a way around the 94 WA ban.
     
  7. wired

    wired Yakima Well-Known Member

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    You can install it on a weapon you just cant fire it with the silencer attached. If you get caught doing so its a misdemeanor. Oh no !!!! So don't get caught. And no, I don't care one bit about committing misdemeanors.

    No new machine guns. Sorry. You can own big bore DD's and AOW's.
     
  8. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    It would be an expensive way to go, but you could do it. The Corp has already paid the tax.

    You could buy the corp and be named president. The MGs are still owned by the corp same as before.

    There is no change of ownership, so no tax is paid.

    I'm assuming the corp will sell for far above the price of a transferable MG even if that is the corps only asset, simply because it is in WA.
     
  9. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    It would be cheaper to just be added to the corperation. Than you would have access to use the MGs.

    You will NEVER actually own the guns. Even as the owner of the corp.

    I know people that get a group of buddies together and form a trust, just so they could all split the price and use of the MG. $2,000 split 5 ways vs one person spending $10,000. They add more MGs slowly till each member can dual-wield at the same time.:laugh:
     
  10. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Damn Coctailer you just set the gears in my head turning!
     
  11. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    Cheaper way to throw away lots of cash!!!
     
  12. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Well I do like to tell people that a drug habit would be much cheaper than a gun habit! :laugh::bluelaugh::laugh:
     
  13. wired

    wired Yakima Well-Known Member

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    Does it matter if you "actually" own them or not as long as you have full use privileges ? As a "trustee" I can relate. Who cares?
     
  14. wired

    wired Yakima Well-Known Member

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    Try drag racing.
     
  15. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    If it is in a trust, nobody actually owns the gun. Any member authorized may use the MG at their leisure. (no kiddies or felons of course)
     
  16. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Can a WA corporation in this way purchase full autos from individuals in other states, or new full autos, or only from another grandfathered WA corporation? I'm confused :confused:
     
  17. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    No new transactions requiring a tax stamp are allowed post '94.
     
  18. toobigtofail

    toobigtofail PDX Member

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    Oh shoot, my bad, I thought this thread was about CARS....:laugh:
     
  19. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Then how can your buddies "add" guns to the corp? Are they in Oregon (etc) ?
     
  20. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    Yes, they live in free states.

    You can do it in WA with AOWs, Silencers, and Destructive Devices though.

    I know of one "Silencer Corperation" in WA.