Washington WA Firearm Seizures On The Rise. "We are not coming for your guns"

[arakboss]

Gun seizures surged in second year of Washington's law

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[Geardo]

I propose an acronym.

MLMF.

Molon Labe mother.....ers .

 

[American123]

Love to hear what the details of the "dangerous people" were. Who called, what was their affiliation with the other person. What is the scenario/proof to deprive a person of their civil right.

 

[Herb g]

Anyone see the video of FBI raid on Roger Stone...and he doesn't own a gun. Better think ahead...they are.

 

[American123]

Anyone see the video of FBI raid on Roger Stone...and he doesn't own a gun. Better think ahead...they are.

Yeah we were able to see an entire video of it because of the corrupt FBI alerting CNN exactly where to be and when to capture the footage. What a complete joke of state system.

 

[arakboss]

Anyone see the video of FBI raid on Roger Stone...and he doesn't own a gun. Better think ahead...they are.

That was crazy but I think it was all a big media production given that CNN had cameras on sight for the production (or so I've heard)

 

[arakboss]

Gun seizures surged in second year of Washington's law

@Sisu don't move to WA whatever you do.

 

[Herb g]

That was crazy but I think it was all a big media production given that CNN had cameras on sight for the production (or so I've heard)

They showed up a full hour before FBI. Waited across the driveway for them to show up before setting up their cameras. Very discrete, ha.

 

[Sisu]

@Sisu don't move to WA whatever you do.

HAHA! Not a CHANCE. You have to keep at least a decade ahead of the locusts. I'm thinking the Deep South is going to be the last stand of Freedom. Texas is infiltrated, AZ is riddled with blue, NOLA is weakening, all around NOLA Cali transplants are moving in. You have to watch City Data, voting records, and where people are moving in from out of state. WA is definitely NOT on my list. Same crap as here.

 

[Sisu]

Love to hear what the details of the "dangerous people" were. Who called, what was their affiliation with the other person. What is the scenario/proof to deprive a person of their civil right.

Me too. I read about this last year. Maybe a 'senior moment' but think this was also tied in with domestic violence and restraining orders. Slippery slope and sticky. Not saying all women are lying shrews etc, but quickest way to phock a man up is play the domestic card and then go for the jugular with something like this. I'm sure in some cases there ARE 'dangerous' elements involved but the whole legality of seizing someone's firearm/s is VERY concerning.

 

[arakboss]

Oregon seems intent on besting WA in the ERPO game: Oregon sees dozens of gun-seizure orders in law's first year

And what's up with the media running all these articles around the same time? I smell ERPO Media Conspiracy in the air.

 

[Herb g]

Me too. I read about this last year. Maybe a 'senior moment' but think this was also tied in with domestic violence and restraining orders. Slippery slope and sticky. Not saying all women are lying shrews etc, but quickest way to phock a man up is play the domestic card and then go for the jugular with something like this. I'm sure in some cases there ARE 'dangerous' elements involved but the whole legality of seizing someone's firearm/s is VERY concerning.

When a woman gets mad, look out. Underline the old saying "Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn".

 

[Sisu]

When a woman gets mad, look out. Underline the old saying "Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn".

One look no further than the Great Commie RB Socialist Republic of California to see how they go about confiscating firearms (since WA OR lock step with all that Cali goose-stepping pretty sure it's similar, will check it out). I think Oregon, WA, CT, CA all have red flag laws, maybe more states out there. Anyone found hard data on criteria used? DV is a convenient crowbar to withhold 2A rights. I've seen people handcuffed for the tiniest faint imprint of a hand on skin (live pd tv). Not impressed.
California crimes of domestic violence
California law defines "domestic violence" as the abuse of:

• your current or former spouse,
• a person with whom you live or have lived (a "cohabitant"),
• the mother or father of your child,
• anyone you are or were dating, and
• a current or former fiancé(e).

1. Loss of California gun rights after a domestic violence conviction
Penal Code 29800 is California's "felon with a firearm" law. Despite its name, this law actually covers more than just felonies. PC 29800 prevents four groups of people from owning, possessing, purchasing, or receiving firearms:

1. people who have been convicted of a felony offense in any state or country,
2. people who are addicted to a narcotic drug,
3. people with two or more convictions for Penal Code 417(a)(2), brandishing a firearm, and
4. people with just one conviction for certain weapons-related misdemeanors.

The law also applies to minors who were convicted of any of the above offenses when they were tried as adults.

Domestic violence that results in an injury – even a minor one – as the result of physical force can be filed as a felony. This includes both wounds and injuries from strangulation or suffocation.

If you are convicted of domestic violence as a felony or of violating Penal Code 273.5 PC as a misdemeanor, California law prohibits you from ever legally possessing a gun.

 

[nwslopoke]

Dangerous people should be locked up As if a gun is the only method of hurting yourself or others. Red Flag laws are just another feather in a politicians pump hat.

The media reports on a few successes but doesn't report on the failures. Florida and the Taxas church shootings are just a few examples of how important public safety is.

 

[arakboss]

Nooooo! Fox don't tell me you are joining this ERPO Media Blitz too!

Gun seizures spike nationally, as states pass laws aimed at curbing mass shootings

 

[Herb g]

True, arakboss, look who owns it. But, there were two great comments to the story. "What prevents Democrats from turning in their guns & mags voluntarily?" The other, "ALL gun owners should be life members of a gun-rights organization. Politicians respect money, and big, well-oiled organizations who vote as a block." Our local range ( to 550 yds) required mandatory NRA membership to join. Now that's a good idea. Now, let's hear the whining about " oh, I can't afford it". We don't have any sugar-daddys to help us. Wonder how many lifers we have here? Guessing less than 10%.

 

[ma96782]

They get away with it.....

Because....every anti-gun person knows, that all gun owners are potential murders.

Or, that is what they are thinking.

Aloha, Mark

 

[ma96782]

But then......IF, the above is true, then:

All women are potential _______ because they have a _______ .

It's seldom about being wrong (or right) in your thinking process. It's about what you can legally get away with under color of law.

Need I point out the case of land seizers in S. Africa? Or something closer....like BUMP FIRE STOCKS being made illegal at the stroke of a pen (and no compensation).

Reasonable and common sense?



Aloha, Mark

PS.....Note that it's easy to demonize the guns. But the politicians and media don't like to focus on the "people." Rrrrright......the guns seem to just get off of a table by themselves, load themselves and go on shooting sprees. If a person was such a danger prior to an event.......why not focus on the person? Oh wait, that might cost a politician an election/re-election.

 

[bentoncity]

Gun seizures surged in second year of Washington's law

If you follow the link &/or just do a search using this text-- wa state court system shows that 77 final extreme risk protection orders were granted--
you'll get a ton of hits. I tired out after viewing 10 or 15 links because everyone of them were tagged "by The Associated Press". Meaning the AP wrote the frickin story and every lay ze a** agency spouted the same cr*p.
My point being just where did the data in the story (s) come from and is it valid? I never found link one that validated the story (s). No data, then I'm calling BS on the AP story (s).
I tried & found a way to view/DL a couple of files on the ERPOS but trying to get the link posted here isn't working. Convoluted fricking govt. website urls..

Hopefully someone here can help decipher the data???? in the attached file cause it sure ain't making any sense to me. Best I can tell is they threw -- Anti-Harassment/ Stalking/Extreme Risk Protection -- into a big pile and called it good. So again, where's the data for the 77 ERPO's that were granted? Inquiring minds want to know..

Don't get me wrong here, I have NO DOUBT they're after guns but news (snickering loudly) people reporting/stating there's an uptick in ERPO's, if there isn't, means they're lying. Therein lies my beef with them. And the morons that use the same 'ol AP report for every 'headline'.

Dan

 

[arakboss]

If you follow the link &/or just do a search using this text-- wa state court system shows that 77 final extreme risk protection orders were granted--
you'll get a ton of hits. I tired out after viewing 10 or 15 links because everyone of them were tagged "by The Associated Press". Meaning the AP wrote the frickin story and every lay ze a** agency spouted the same cr*p.
My point being just where did the data in the story (s) come from and is it valid? I never found link one that validated the story (s). No data, then I'm calling BS on the AP story (s).
I tried & found a way to view/DL a couple of files on the ERPOS but trying to get the link posted here isn't working. Convoluted fricking govt. website urls..

Hopefully someone here can help decipher the data???? in the attached file cause it sure ain't making any sense to me. Best I can tell is they threw -- Anti-Harassment/ Stalking/Extreme Risk Protection -- into a big pile and called it good. So again, where's the data for the 77 ERPO's that were granted? Inquiring minds want to know..

Don't get me wrong here, I have NO DOUBT they're after guns but news (snickering loudly) people reporting/stating there's an uptick in ERPO's, if there isn't, means they're lying. Therein lies my beef with them. And the morons that use the same 'ol AP report for every 'headline'.

Dan

I too would like to hear details of these confiscations, particularly from the party who had the weapons confiscated. I would also like to see breakdowns of what the reasons were for the confiscations.